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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 23:09:46 GMT
So today I got a Windlass Effigy sword, and the grip is not super tight. If I spin the sword the grip will often slightly shift right or left. It's kinda annoying, and I don't think I'd want to actually use this sword. I found the grip core is wood, and I don't fell justified returning the sword. And while I think it looks good on my wall, I don't really like the idea of spending $160 on a wall hanger. Are there any ways I can fix this problem without dissemblance? (The sword is penned.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 0:17:52 GMT
It's shifting side-to-side, not back and forth between the guard and pommel? If there's a gap between the handle and guard of pommel you can either tighten the peen or work some fishing line or something into the gap. But left to right shifting.... I can't think of anything but cutting off the old handle and making a new one that fits better. Unless you can cut the old one off carefully enough to just shim it and put it back on, but i'm not even sure that's possible. Maybe you could work some epoxy in, but I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 0:29:33 GMT
Hmm, I suppose I'll leave it how it is, looks good on a wall. It'll probably be my last penned sword, though.
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Post by Jeff K. ( Jak) on Jan 23, 2010 0:35:47 GMT
My hanwei longsword does the same thing. I just hammer the peen to tighten it up, but you'll probably end up marring that finish on the pommel, besides, re-peening is only a temporary fix.
I'll agree with Eruialsul, you'll either have to cut the old grip away or disassemble and fix it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2010 1:48:00 GMT
I haven't actually used the sword for any thrusting or cutting, although the blade seems like it would be stiff enough for some thrusting, from dry handling it I don't get the impression that it's whippy at all. I wrote a review on it in the sword review section, you can see that if you want. I'm going to leave the sword's grip how it is now, the loose handle isn't really apparent during light dry handling, which is about all I've used it for.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2010 4:12:40 GMT
Depending on how much energy you want to put in to this and how much you'd mind being my guinea pig...
I have a theory that with a wood and leather handle, you could actually soak the whole thing in warm water for about 4 hours and then take it out and apply vice grips along with some strips of wood (or other non marring material) and then "squish" the wood together.
If the wood of the handle took enough water then it would become soft and easier to shape to the tang. However, you run the risk of rusting the tang and any other parts that couldn't be dried.
But if it's returnable, thats what I'd do first.
Or you could work a new handle up for it as a weekend project.
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Post by Dan Davis on Jan 26, 2010 13:49:25 GMT
Soaking the grip core in water will most likely result in the grip core falling apart, as most are held together with wood glue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2010 23:58:10 GMT
I looked for this subject because I just read the "COLLECTORS CORNER By Daniel S. Dacombe ”The First Cut is the Deepest: Accidents with Swords”" wherein some idiot suggests using epoxy for a quick fix (and permanent ruination!) of a loose-handled kat.
Here's how I learned to tighten a handle on a kat about 22 years ago from David Pippen of the Society for the Preservation of Japanese Art @ samuraisword.com:
1. wrap the BLADE tightly in a piece of paper from a YELLOW legal pad (this is what you will hold the sword by while the handle is off);
2. remove the bamboo peg in the handle;
3. holding the handle tightly, blade up and edge away from yourself, hit the top of the wrist holding the sword with the opposite fist to loosen the handle, then remove it;
4. wrap the tang AS TIGHTLY AS YOU CAN in another piece of paper from a YELLOW legal pad that has been torn to fit the tang, leaving about one inch from the peg-hole and from the end of the tang - wrap tightly but DO NOT use ANY type of adhesive or lubricant!
5. reassemble the katana. If this seems too simple, give it a try!
Better yet, visit David's site and request his Samurai Sword Evaluation Form, which contains more detailed instructions for this technique.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 1:06:43 GMT
About 12 years ago, I heard somebody say that they had a Viking Sword with a loose grip and to fix it they soaked it in antifreeze (pommel, grip etc;), I don't know why this is stuck in my head, I just always replaced loose cores. Just a thought. Tibbs
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Feb 25, 2010 15:44:23 GMT
You could try shoving something down into the grip slot via the guard slot - maybe it can go through. If you can find the right size thing to insert slop it up with epoxy and shove it down tight. Is the extra space on the flat or the 'edge' of the tang? Like does the tang twist in the grip?
I wouldn't return it - the replacement may come with a set of different problems you may like less?
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