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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 15:58:26 GMT
Im still a beginner but now after getting a bit more used to look different kinds of sword hilts (on photos) Im starting to develop my own taste. There is a hilt type that pleases my developing taste very much. It has a triangle pommel that is decorated. I havent seen many modern replicas like that. Most of swords and every sub $300 sword with a triangle hilt that I have seen have no decorations - just a 'plain hilt'. For me the plain triangle hilt is just too plain. Its like something is missing, like a paper without a drawing. In the pics below there is nothing missing.  www.sword.cz/swords.htm my.opera.com/florianek/blog/?startidx=10Now I forgot what was the point of this posting if there even was such. It could be just to celebrate how beautiful these are  If Im ready to pay for a high end sword some day it will propably be of this type, unless my taste still dramatically changes. What do you think of these individual swords and their type? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 17:03:46 GMT
I'm also a big fan of this style of pommel. Most decorated (or even plain) two-piece pommels are very attractive, I think, and Cervenka's work is definitely some of the best out there right now.
Actually, I was trying to think of another smith who does some AMAZING inlay work on his viking swords, and I can't for the life of me remember his name...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 17:48:54 GMT
www.armart.antiquanova.com/Viking_pattern_welded.htmThis stuff is pretty Nice too, but Cervenka's is still my favorite. Good thread Rauta, I never thought about it but that's exactly why triangle viking hilts don't trip my trigger. The first one you posted has me drooling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 17:58:56 GMT
I like that style hilt also and the second sword pic you posted.WOW what a beautiful piece of work the light moose antler makes a great handle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 22:50:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2010 23:28:19 GMT
Not the same kinda hilt, though. And it's pretty basic, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 2:15:11 GMT
How about some of DSA's newer offerings of Viking swords? Both are very nice and surprising inexpensive for the level of detail on them. They're also very light for DSA swords weighing only about 2lb 11oz (I think you already saw them): www.darksword-armory.com/1335-Migration-Sword.htmlThis one is similar in design to the second picture and has a nice level of detail. www.darksword-armory.com/1328-Viking-Sword.htmlThis is one is based on possibly the most famous Finnish sword ever found. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 5:54:05 GMT
I too am a big fan of this hilt. I've got a pretty good Viking sword collection, but still don't have one of these with a real nice inlay. I'm always amazed at pictures of the originals.
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Post by sparky on Jan 23, 2010 17:34:21 GMT
www.armart.antiquanova.com/Viking_pattern_welded.htmThis stuff is pretty Nice too, but Cervenka's is still my favorite. Good thread Rauta, I never thought about it but that's exactly why triangle viking hilts don't trip my trigger. The first one you posted has me drooling. Some amazing blades on that link Maz!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 17:47:29 GMT
How about some of DSA's newer offerings of Viking swords? Both are very nice and surprising inexpensive for the level of detail on them. They're also very light for DSA swords weighing only about 2lb 11oz (I think you already saw them): www.darksword-armory.com/1335-Migration-Sword.htmlThis one is similar in design to the second picture and has a nice level of detail. www.darksword-armory.com/1328-Viking-Sword.htmlThis is one is based on possibly the most famous Finnish sword ever found. These swords have no triangle pommel so this is out of the subject, but anyway, I will consider getting 11th.c sword when its possible for DSA to shorten its grip. With only a few centimeters shorter grip the sword would look a lot more like the original. They can do that during the next production run, and that means waiting half a year. Yes, after that the sword would be incredibly good for its price, even with the extra price of customising added. The original has one piece pommel so even that feature is historic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 14:06:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 14:54:28 GMT
Thanks for these links, good looking swords. This one is also cheap. Also it seems their pommels are made of pieces like the historic ones. Its very interesting that this sword still costs "only" 579€. With accurate inlaids and multi piece pommel I would expect its price over 1000€.  Do you know more about this manufacturer? What sort of reputation it has? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 15:43:00 GMT
Thanks for these links, good looking swords. This one is also cheap. Also it seems their pommels are made of pieces like the historic ones. Its very interesting that this sword still costs "only" 579€. With accurate inlaids and multi piece pommel I would expect its price over 1000€. Do you know more about this manufacturer? What sort of reputation it has? I know most people use them for reenactment as blunts, I don't know if anybody order one sharpened. They are durable, good quality, low price, just a bit heavier than ideal, but that weight would leave with sharpening probably. Bad news are that I don't know how to order anything from them as their main page www.sword-gur.com doesn't work. Through google you can get to this page: www.sword-gur.com/WEB/STRA/jednoruc.htm but home page doesn't work. Here is a myarmory thread about them: www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=15520 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 17:14:02 GMT
I know most people use them for reenactment as blunts, I don't know if anybody order one sharpened. They are durable, good quality, low price, just a bit heavier than ideal, but that weight would leave with sharpening probably. Sorry for being ignorant, but is there something else different in reenactment swords compared to normal swords, than the reenactment blade being blunt and often heavier? I mean, if you sharpen a reenactment sword, is there still something essentially different to normal swords of the same price? For example, compare this sword www.sword-gur.com/WEB/index_ax.html with Albion clontarf, both based on the same historic sword. Clontarf is lighter, but Clontarf has one piece pommel . Which one is more historic? It works, but the address is atypical: www.sword-gur.com/WEB/index_ax.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 19:14:29 GMT
Depends on the manufacturer but the main difference is that blunt swords are quite thick through the whole width of the blade so you have to remove a lot of material to make geometry god for cutting. You can sharpen them without removing much metal but then you have very steep secondary bevel which won't cut well. If they would, or you (or someone else for you) sharpen the Gur sword properly and remove enough metal the sword would be more accurate than Albion squire line viking because of the pommel. And the shape of Gur sword looks very authentic. I don't know, but maybe there is also no distal taper so the sword might be a bit tip heavy even when sharpened well, but that isn't necessarily not historically correct. Btw, thanks for the good link. |
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