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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 13:04:42 GMT
www.globalgear.com.au/prod3619.htmWhat do you think of this? Is this blade and pommel historic? What do you know of the manufacturer? The price is 265.00 when pre ordered. Is it a good price? What does this "screw to pommel" tang structure mean? Edit: Its not damascus after all, thanks for correcting me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 15:36:56 GMT
Are there any full length pictures? It looks nice. Fittings look quite good for the price. Pattern welding of the blade is not in a historical pattern but looks beautiful anyway. Historical pattern welded blades have pattern welded core and the mono steel edges welded on. Screwed structure is when you have a threaded tang and you screw the pommel on like a cap on a bottle. Not historical until 16th or 17th century but easy to tighten or to dissasemble for customization.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 16:46:32 GMT
The pommel and guard seem very familiar to the DSA viking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 17:15:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 18:08:59 GMT
I have two aesthetic issues with this sword.
I don’t like the way the fuller ends before it reaches the guard. In my mind it would look better if the fuller had continued right up to the guard The blade looks like it needs to be wider.
I do like the Damascus steel, its fairly attractive for a cheap blade
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 19:02:09 GMT
A diamond cross-section and a fuller? I don't think I've ever seen that before. Definitely not historical.
The pommel looks small, but not out-right ahistorical.
Over-all, I've seen uglier viking swords.
For an actual pattern-welded blade? I'd say yes.
Not to say it's necessarily a good sword otherwise, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 19:08:54 GMT
It's hard to tell from the picture, but the blade profile seems kind of thin for a viking. Also, I've ogled quite a few viking blades and I have yet to see one that comes out of the guard in a diamond cross section. In fact I've yet to see ANY historical example of a blade that starts in a diamond cross section and then goes to a fuller. The pommel is plausible enough, though I don't like the look of it. One piece renderings of two-piece pommels are passable if well made, but this one looks cheap. Maybe it's because the twisted wire elements are molded in...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 21:29:45 GMT
Even though it's not even close to being historic I really like the blade profile of the differentially tempered one one there site. www.globalgear.com.au/prod2841.htmThe price is a bit much but the reviewer liked it and it cut well in the videos.
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Post by shadowhowler on Jan 16, 2010 22:16:37 GMT
Heh... the reviewer liked it. Classic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 22:50:40 GMT
Actually the one buliwyf linked to was reviewed by Paul and he said it is great. The price is reasonable considering it is DH on both sides and that is Australian dollars. As to the other one the metal looks like a zinc alloy looking thing not like stainless at all. Not a bad looking sword though not sure about the blade I am always wary of cheap pattern-welded blades because I know how bad badly welded steel can be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 23:35:20 GMT
Sorry I guess I shouldn't use the SBG guides as a reference especially the one's that Paul does.
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 16, 2010 23:39:43 GMT
Sorry I guess I shouldn't use the SBG guides as a reference especially the one's that Paul does. Yeah, probably not. As to this sword...ew, I don't like it. At all. As others have pointed out, the guard and pommel are very similar, if not identical, to the DSA Oslo and perhaps others. Minus points for creativity there. The grip looks too long. Whats up with that fuller? It looks pretty lost there. Odd blade profile...and that pattern is pretty not great. It's be nice if they actually tried for a pattern, though...or kept it in the fuller where it belonged... On that note..."damascus" is all anybody needs to say. Eh, good ol' Global Gear...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 23:51:17 GMT
Yea it's got a few odd things going for it but for some reason i really like the blade profile,the blade looks wider than most at the guard and I really like that look.The guard is plain and the pommel is OK.I dont like the black handle wrap it looks cheap and the studs have to go.What can I say we all like different things and as long as we watch out for each other so no one gets ripped off, and we find good deals for each other this is a good place to be. review below. www.sword-buyers-guide.com/global-gear.htmlsorry if I went off topic!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 0:14:21 GMT
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Post by randomnobody on Jan 17, 2010 0:14:57 GMT
Actually, it just hit me what this sword reminds me of most. The Windlass Excalibur. That was another odd beast.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 0:29:10 GMT
Well, all things considered, (throwing historical accuracy aside for the moment) it's a pretty darn good-looking sword. The only part that's really unattractive is the odd inception of the fuller there, but all together with the unconventional proportions that still balance each other out and the nice grip and the pattern-welding and the detail on the fittings, this thing looks nice. A lot better-looking than the DSA version if you ask me. The look of the sword doesn't bother me. What DOES bother me is that "screw to pommel tang structure." That sort of assembly can be fine if it's done well (see some of Brenno's earlier work) but it is much cheaper and simpler to do it poorly. And since this is the only other image of a Global Gear screw-on pommel assembly that I've seen: I'd be cautious of using it for cutting. The DH version that paul reviewed is hot-peened and beefy, it seems far superior.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 1:15:04 GMT
I dunno. I'd still go with the Tinker Viking at it's new lower price.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 1:22:31 GMT
I dunno. I'd still go with the Tinker Viking at it's new lower price. YES.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 1:28:49 GMT
I second Odingaard.
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Post by Avery on Jan 17, 2010 1:30:51 GMT
Theres alot of good viking blades out there for a good price. But, having said that, if I can buy this for under a 100 on ebay, I'll take the plunge. That whole "screw on pommel" worries me, and every one else is right. The hilt construction is a little too close to DSA. The fuller should go all the way under the guard and the fact that it's pattern weld is a turn off to me for this type. However, if I do buy one, I'll try to be impartial.
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