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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 8:10:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 9:04:32 GMT
In my opinion, it's not worth the money. Here is RicWilly's detailed review on it:
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 13, 2010 9:56:31 GMT
I'd concur with Odingaard but that'd be redundant.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 12:47:13 GMT
Thanks guys. What about the windlass version? I've heard good things about it.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 13, 2010 17:33:42 GMT
It's passable I reckon, Jesse. It will cut once sharpened a bit. That ricasso is a bit ugly tho and the metal plate at the base of the guard came a bit loose but I was hard on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 18:07:45 GMT
Well Ric, being as you're our residential expert on roman weaponry what would you recommend? What is the best combination of durability and historical accuracy? Take the horsehead falcata that depeeka manufactures. It's beautiful, but I read a review for it, and it HAS NO TANG. (though I know falcata are greek weaponry, not roman.) any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 18:24:40 GMT
Falcata is Celt-Iberian, kopis is greek.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2010 18:43:04 GMT
Need it be a mainz-pattern gladius? Or just a good gladius?
I'd wait for RicWilly's opinion, to be sure, but the three gladii that I've heard consistently good things about are the VA Actium (base model), the Gen 2 Pompeii, and the Kris Cutlery "Roman."
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However, none of those are Mainz-pattern, that's a Hispaniensis and two Pompeii. The VA loses big points on historical accuracy with its construction, but I usually think being able to disassemble the sword is a plus rather than a minus. Also, I've heard the pommel is a bit big for some people, but overall VA makes damn nice swords, and I have no reason to suspect this is any different. The Gen 2 seems plenty tough, though it's pommel is a bit atypical for history lessons and the like. The Kris cutlery looks like an absolute beast; I'd love to have that sword, but I don't know if you can find them any more.
***Now, take all of this with a big grain of salt, because I haven't handled these in person and I don't usually feel comfortable recommending swords that I haven't used or examined. But those are the one's I've heard good buzz about.
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 13, 2010 19:36:12 GMT
Jesse, I really don't know much about historical accuracy. I'm not really an expert on gladii, I just have a few and like the type. So keep that in mind. My favorite is the KC Pompeii. A beastie of a sword and a bit heavy but I find it beautiful and has been sturdy by far. I didn't care for the Actium, mostly because of the large pommel. But others have given it good buzz. It depends on what you going to do with it. From what I've gleaned from the re-enactor crowd a Deepeeka model may be a good choice, only not that one I reviewed, it big and butt ugly. Also their swords are not designed to be used as actual swords. If you want one to actually use like a sword best to go with something else. Gen2's leaf shaped model is sturdy enough but like Luna said not really a mainz or historical. It cuts and stabs pretty good tho that round grip is a problem with edge alignment. Still, I like it well enough. A good cheaper leaf blade type is Windlass' Gladiator sword. Here's my review. Take note I had to fix the grip, I like it tho. Happy hunting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 2:37:39 GMT
Well I know this might seem like a strange combination to you guys, but what I would like is something that I might not have sharpened, but I still want functional. Essentially a metal waster. For instance, most of the blades depeeka manufactures are for decoration-purposes only. but I wish I could know whether-or-not they're stronger than the average POS wall-hanger. I.E. the ones that literally fall apart whilst you swing them around. One wouldn't want any helicopter blades now would we?
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Post by YlliwCir on Jan 14, 2010 10:16:01 GMT
I do have a Deepeeka blade I sharpened and cut with, Jesse. The thing about Deepeekas are I don't think they're tempered and the three gladii of theirs I've seen are kinda soft and as can be seen in the review Odingaard linked to it'll bend if stressed. Now that's good I guess for what you describe, better to bend than break. The tangs (on the ones I've seen) aren't welded but of are of one piece, not especially beefy but adequate (in my opinion). Just don't get that one you posted in the OP, it really is ugly in person. Some of the others, I kinda like the look of. So, yeah, I think they are better than your average pos wall hanger. I'm speaking strictly of the Deepeeka gladii I've seen. I could take them apart and see what was holding them together. Their longer swords may be more of a crapshoot.
On a related note, I've talked with someone who had the point on their Gen2 mainz bend on a plastic bottle, so maybe they aren't as tough as I once thought.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 12:07:16 GMT
Well, in times like this; I always think to myself: I don't think he would consider the Deepeeka, that's for sure. For $20 more than the Deepeeka, he'd probably just go with the MRL Pompeii; if budget were a concern and you wanted something reliable enough to swing around. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 15:30:28 GMT
Thanks guys, I've got quite a bit to mull over now, also +1 at odingaard for that. lol ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 22:19:51 GMT
Deepeeka swords are made for historical accuracy not to be beaters they are more used for re-enactment groups
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 23:21:59 GMT
Such is a shame. Some of their blades are quite beautiful....pity
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 16:54:32 GMT
why is it so hard to find a historically accurate gladius ?? that is battle-ready ? they have a simple design it puzzles me as i loooked around online there is very few choices out there for a sub 300$ roman sword that fits the bill ...........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 19:27:55 GMT
Hello! If you want a metal gladius practice sword, I can personally recommend this one. www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=M2289&name=Roman+Gladius I bought this a while ago and I still have it. Back then I new little about swords, and me and my friend would play "stab the barbarian" with it by throwing a 4x6 at each other and trying to stick it on the tip. We also stabbed/hit it against a pine tree more times than I can count, that was a couple years ago although the tree is still messed up... : ( I just disassembled it recently, and found that after about a year of what I later found out was heavy misuse, it has a small crack in the grip, and the tang is slightly crooked. If you were to use this for light-medium sparring I'm sure it would hold up just fine. I'm not sure if it's tempered, although that hasn't been an issue in mine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 22:08:53 GMT
windlass gladiator sword (deal of the day ) $72.50 if anyone interested i think rick willy has one and gave it a good review
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