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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 18:04:36 GMT
I'd like to see some pics, and specs on shobu. I like the quick one and not so much the big beasts. Thanks. I might make one in the near future. I need some good ideas. Jerry
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Post by wiwingti on Dec 28, 2009 18:21:59 GMT
here is a litle video of mines
three shobu comparison
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 18:49:49 GMT
Thanks for that. Here is a little karma.
So, which one is your favorite, and why? Thanks, Jerry
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Post by wiwingti on Dec 28, 2009 19:10:44 GMT
the WSS shobu, because it is light and because of that it make it faster . and because there are a limited amount so it makes them unique
and not because it is a WSS one
yeah i am proud of it but i really prefer it because of the handeling.
Marc
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 20:33:09 GMT
I'm a proud owner of Dynasty Forge Shobu. It is a little heavy butyou can get use to it in no time. The polish on DF katanas is just stunning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 20:59:48 GMT
How does a Shobu compare to an Odachi or O-Katana This is the first time I have ever heard of one.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 28, 2009 21:20:08 GMT
All three are completely different. Well, not really completely but quite different, nonetheless.
Shobu (-zukuri) is merely one of the several shapes of Japanese swords. These are the ones that have no real distinction between the ha and kissaki, ie. no yokote, and only the most gradual, rounded transition from blade to point. They are also referred to as "iris leaf" geometry, for their resemblance to the same.
Odachi were merely a very large sword, which once served a number of functions on the battlefields of the day but were phased out and afterwards were used primarily as shrine or temple offerings.
An o-katana is just a long katana. By traditional standards this would be anything bigger than, say, 26" or so. I forget the exact shaku but in that neighborhood. To us now, 30"-34" is "o-katana" and many call anything over 35" a(n) (n)odachi. (o and no being originally different, as well...)
Google it. ™
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 22:33:26 GMT
Random, do you have a particular shobu you fancy? I'd like to see it if you do. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by Dan Davis on Dec 28, 2009 22:47:46 GMT
Shobu as a general class of nihonto/shinken tend to be slightly thicker, heavier and more "beefy" although typically no longer than a typical shinogi-zukuri blade.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 28, 2009 23:04:29 GMT
Random, do you have a particular shobu you fancy? I'd like to see it if you do. Thanks for the explanation. Well if I had to pick, my own blade from James Raw. It's actually a naginata-naoshi-style wakisazhi, the primary geometry being either unokubi or kanmuri-otoshi (the verdict, I think, is still out on that one), but he finished it with a shobu kissaki. Not many good pictures of it, but here's a few: Normally shobu-zukuri isn't really my thing, but I like this one well enough. Bigger fan of unokubi and hira-zukuri, myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2009 23:43:32 GMT
Thank you. What is the weight of the bare blade on the shobu? I've seen Hi on all the few shobu I've seen, but that's not much. Thanks for the pics.
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Post by randomnobody on Dec 29, 2009 0:48:18 GMT
I don't actually know the weight of mine...around 1.5lbs, I'd guess? Maybe 2... It's a 21" nagasa and that's all I can remember of the measurements I took of it. I'd tried looking up the old thread but I can't seem to make the search find it. Not seen many shobu with hi, odd that all you've seen have had hi... Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 1:09:51 GMT
I don't actually know the weight of mine...around 1.5lbs, I'd guess? Maybe 2... It's a 21" nagasa and that's all I can remember of the measurements I took of it. I'd tried looking up the old thread but I can't seem to make the search find it. Not seen many shobu with hi, odd that all you've seen have had hi... Interesting. Yes, that is funny. Although, I'm just starting out on my Japanese sword journey. I'm getting to know the steel quite well, but geomitry and terms are very new to me. Maybe that's the reason for the Hi?? I forged a video game sword awhile back, that is kinda/sorta like a shobu. Lloyd's double swords from Tales of Sympohnia. Good practice anyway. Thanks for the info. Jerry
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Post by Dan Davis on Dec 29, 2009 14:12:45 GMT
One of the notable characteristics of a shobu-zukuri is that the gi (area above the ridgeline) angles sharply to the mune (spine), which is typically MUCH narrower than on a comparable shinogi-zukuri blade.
It seems unlikely that bo-hi would be designed into or added to this type of blade.
What DOES seem likely is that manufacturers of some production "shobu-zukuri" are under the mistaken impression that the kissaki (tip) is the ONLY design difference between shobu and shinogi; and have simply changed the kissaki of their existing sword lines.
To some this is okay, to those of us who know the difference it looks like a retarded duck trying to swim in mud.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 5:53:21 GMT
If I have some time this week, I'll update my webpage with pics and specs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 6:37:27 GMT
Aesthetically, I think I prefer shobu zukuri to shinogi zukuri. I hope to own one some day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 20:22:29 GMT
Thanks for the pictures, ideas, and education. I'd like to see more.
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