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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 13:09:25 GMT
Now few of you won't know this but I have more of a love of the Minoan culture than I do for Japanese culture. Doing my usual run through looking for minoan artifacts I came across this picture; pics.livejournal.com/richaje/pic/0005e7qg/s640x480The third one on the right is an interesting specimen in the width of the blade, not something I've encountered before and I love the handle designs they are always so boisterous and interesting.
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Post by jpfranco on Dec 9, 2009 13:23:20 GMT
It is quite different from the "typical" minoan design I am accustomed to. I have never seen anything like it. You are sure it is labelled as minoan? WOW Great find!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 14:14:06 GMT
Jp: yes I agree that it isn't typical and I do believe it was labelled as that from a museum exhibit, though I can't find the link again, hate when that happens. They are beautiful examples, such strange blade shapes for bronze age weapons though, if they are bronze age weapons. I didn't get much in the way of details. Hope I'm not wrong lol, not many things I hate more than misinformation.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 15:59:15 GMT
I like the look of those swords...nice flowing lines and graceful curves. Good post!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 16:57:50 GMT
It is quite different from the "typical" minoan design I am accustomed to. I have never seen anything like it. You are sure it is labelled as minoan? WOW Great find! A bit broader than usual for a Minoan ... perhaps Mycenaean instead ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 18:58:13 GMT
Minoan culture is fascinating. The first European state society and we know so little about them; we can't read their writing, we're not even sure what ethnicity they were. All we know about them is what we can learn from their art and by what other cultures wrote about them. They weren't particularly warlike, were they? I thought that was their Mycenaean neighbors to the north?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 21:19:59 GMT
sneakypete
They were Black. That's what I always say when I don't know. lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 21:48:46 GMT
sneakypete They were Black. That's what I always say when I don't know. lol Ha! LOL! Good one +1 for ya...Sanmarc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 3:51:28 GMT
No they aren't mycenean, the mycenean's went for straighter edged blades and less complicated hilts. The minoans as far as we know were not particularly warlike though there is some conjecture that they practiced human sacrifice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 10:40:57 GMT
I thought they loooked just like the bronze aged swords found in the museum here in Oslo. So I did a pic google for minoan swords, and found the pic. And under the pic it says:
"This is a collection of Middle and Late Bronze Age swords found in Germany. From the left, the third and fourth swords were apparently thrusting only, the next two were thrusting and slashing, the next two were slashing only."
So nope, they're not minoan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 12:32:22 GMT
ah damn, must've missed that. Sod, thought they were odd, my bad
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 21:49:52 GMT
what caused the collapse of minoan culture? mycenaeans? volcanoe? sea people? obviously, i'm confused.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2009 22:23:34 GMT
That's actually THE mystery. Nobody seems to know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 4:33:44 GMT
The Atlanteans destroyed them with a death ray.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 4:48:24 GMT
nah pleasure ray
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Post by jpfranco on Dec 11, 2009 13:16:37 GMT
what caused the collapse of minoan culture? mycenaeans? volcanoe? sea people? obviously, i'm confused. When I was in Crete and visited the palace of Knossos and the Minoan musuem, I read that their culture suffered two massive blows, the first one happened because of the eruption of the volcano in Thera (Santorini today), it created a tidal wave 30 meters high which destroyed part of Crete. The second appear to be conquest by the Mycenaeans.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 23:50:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 1:37:07 GMT
Even though no one has proper links to Minoan weapons, They would have had to defend against coalstal raiders,(Pirates) so they had some kind of need for this, Spears and Bows are part of the Historical record, some where there has to be knives and swords......SanMarc.
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