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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 4:08:38 GMT
Another thread about take-down/concealable swords got me thinking about this; it was also a thread I ran on another forum several months ago: My wife was reading a book in which the villian used a urumi, which is a flexible Malaysian sword. I had never heard of it, so I did a little research and found this to be a fascinating weapon. It was a unique weapon; easily concealed about the waist as a belt or coiled up and hidden on the body like a bullwhip. From what I have read, this was a devistating weapon which was very hard to defend against. It was especially useful in fighting against multiple and armored opponents; even though the users themselves only use the urumi and a buckler without wearing armor. Obviously, this is a very difficult weapon to master - just like a three-sectioned staff of Chinese origin. The urumi could easily cause as much injury to the user as it could the opponent. I definately have much respect for those who have mastered this weapon, its one of the most interesting edged weapons that I have seen in recent memory; so I thought I would share with the forum. There is a little information here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UrumiAnd here is a video: Attachments:
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Dec 7, 2009 4:35:46 GMT
To quote ShadowHowler , now THAT is just pure awesome sauce. ;D LOL! In all seriousness, the Urumi appears to be a very intriguing weapon... please let us know if you find out anything else about it! Thanks, Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 6:18:56 GMT
Wow, that's all kinds of terrifying. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 7:13:46 GMT
I mean, can you imagine this thing getting wrapped around an arm, leg, or neck. It's gonna probably leave a mark...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 9:10:00 GMT
up until around 50 years ago, a similar weapon was used in lebanon and syria. mostly trouble making hooligans used it though. it was a bit wider than the one shown, alomst the same size as an average belt. it was worn around the waist hidden under a waist cloth. mostly hooligans used them against one another in street fights. it isnt razor sharp, but since they were used in the same manner one would flick a wet towel at someone, you can imagine the type of cut a flick to the face would do with this paper thin metal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 19:02:26 GMT
I think I'll make one. But how...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 20:45:59 GMT
That does look terrifying, and cool at the same time, I am struggling to see how it would be effective against an armoured opponent. Sure against flesh I bet it would be horrific but against any kind of armour, I couldn’t see it even scratching the surface
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 21:09:33 GMT
I think I'll make one. But how... A Bandsaw blade, filed to a correct geometry would work.
BUT DON'T DO IT!!! It seems way too easy to mess yourself up something fierce!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 2:05:33 GMT
^^^ Ditto!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 6:57:21 GMT
A weapon made from bandsaw blades sounds pretty brutal. Regarding it's usefulness against armor, I could see a flexible, saw-toothed weapon sliding along metal plating, bending around ridges, and snagging the soft/vulnerable portions between plates. I would imagine that underarms, the insides of your elbows, the back of your legs/knees would all be prime targets unless they were sheathed in mail or kevlar. Bear in mind that this is also from a culture that might have different types of armor from what we are all used to so there's a possibility that that comment is one that must be taken in the context of that culture. Either way though, I'd be none-to-eager to have to defend against some whirling dervish coming at me with such a weapon. Your best bet would probably be the Indian Jones response...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 7:04:19 GMT
BANG! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 18:09:32 GMT
I think I'll make one. But how... A Bandsaw blade, filed to a correct geometry would work.
BUT DON'T DO IT!!! It seems way too easy to mess yourself up something fierce! Don't worry, I'm not quite that stupid. The threats of death, dismemberment, disembowelment, decapitation, and/or castration are far too likely in the presence of a flexible blade. Paired with my signature clumsiness, they're almost a certainty.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 18:42:28 GMT
Funny this came up. On another forum I frequent, a new member who lives in California, but originally is from India shared with us information about the Urumi. He says that his father, who practiced Kalaripayattu, had an older version of the urumi, which had seven blades instead of four, which he says seems to be the standard today.
Unfortunately for religious purposes he could not take a photograph of the weapon, but it sounded very nice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2009 19:51:41 GMT
Your best bet would probably be the Indian Jones response... I'm not familiar with him. Is he from Oklahoma?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 19:43:17 GMT
I could of sworn I've seen something like that only it was a single blade and abit more rigid... I thought I've seen it in a movie as well, I did a search on belt swords and found this website beltswords.com/ not very traditional but hey it looks like it'll work and with less chance of self dismemberment... Also along time ago I saw one in a kung fu magazine which was pretty much a Tai Chi sword that buckled onto it self... man I wish I could remember more details...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 21:18:44 GMT
you're referring to a wushu dao. They're really flexible, but not really intended for combat like the Urumi is.
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Post by swordboy bringer of chaos on Dec 10, 2009 5:51:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 20:44:29 GMT
the Urumi reminds of The Simpsons episode where Homer & Bart see the museam movie about nunchakus--subtitled "Cool but UselessEssentially if you have some steel that acts like a bandsaw blade you have a bunch of bandsaw blades attached to a grip!. The urumi seems like a vicious sort of "crowd control" weapon but a battle weapon it aint. Its WAY to easy to boomerang back on you. Against any sort of rigid armor, its hopeless. You cant parry with it--in fact, I read one 19th century account where a Brit officer just beat down the umumi blades with his saber and "that's all she wrote!" Its a weapon designed for show and not much go--despite one poser claiming lightsaber like performance, cutting an elephants leg off with one!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2009 12:21:55 GMT
Ah yes, the urumi. One of those weapons I'd hate to wield almost as much as I'd hate to have wielded against me.
Scary stuff.
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