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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 6:51:11 GMT
So I just got a sword that didn't come with a scabbard. But it DID come with what is basically a cardboard scabbard for shipping purposes. As strange as it sounds, it fits really well. I'll probably end up making a woodcore scabbard for it at some point, but will storing it in the cardboard tarnish the blade or encourage rusting?
I should mention that my dad works with a lot of metal parts, and he was the one that brought it to my attention in the first place. I guess they wrap all their outgoing metal parts in newspaper or acid free paper. But then I saw some websites talking about using cardboard to make a simple cover for knives. So I wasn't sure.
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Post by YlliwCir on Nov 30, 2009 6:54:18 GMT
I have recieved a few knives with the blades shipped in a cardboard like sheath. I don't see the harm. Give it a go and let us know how it works.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 7:52:53 GMT
Many knives are stainless, so we're talking about a different material. I wouldn't use cardboard as there is the possibility of different chemicals in the carboard etching or tarnishing the metal. Scabbard/etc materials are important, as only certain woods are suitable for making scabbards, so the same should apply to cardboard.
I recommend purchasing an inexpensive hard rifle case. They are dirt cheap; I use $30 Planos that are plenty sturdy, and for a bit more you can get models with better construction, though I don't see practical need. Such cases are also excellent to ship swords in should you ever wish to sell one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 16:32:02 GMT
Cardboard, being paper-based, will hold moisture exceedingly well; if there's any dampness in the environment, it'll grab hold of it, count on it. Its good for temporary storage/shipment but beyond that, I'd use it for just that purpose and none other.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2009 3:30:36 GMT
Well, there's cardboard, and then there's cardboard. Some good quality cardboard is treated with a silicone-based water repellant if it is going to be used in an application that requires it. I suggest you test a small piece of it yourself to see. Place a drop of water on the cardboard. If it beads up and doesn't soak in it's probably treated and would be OK to use for temporary storage. If the water soaks into the cardboard right away then it's cheap stuff and should not be used for any prolonged period as it will attract moisture as stated.
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Post by seansword on Dec 1, 2009 5:13:14 GMT
You can buy some leather and make a leather scabbard, would take less time than a wooden one unless you have all the fancy woodworking tools. Attachments:
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Post by enkidu on Dec 1, 2009 23:13:38 GMT
Oils and dyes used in leather treatment arent that good mixed with carbon steel. Just ask my Kris Cutlery Viking about her life in the crappy scabbard she came with  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2009 8:58:20 GMT
Oils and dyes used in leather treatment arent that good mixed with carbon steel. Just ask my Kris Cutlery Viking about her life in the crappy scabbard she came with She should divorce that son of a semprini! |
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Post by YlliwCir on Dec 4, 2009 11:32:04 GMT
Doesn't cardboard and wood come from the same source?
I agree about not storing in leather, tho I do have a couple that do okay in theirs.
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Post by sparky on Dec 5, 2009 0:20:08 GMT
Duct Tape!  Just duct tape over the card board. It makes everything better. If that doesn't do it you could apply a coat of linseed oil to the card board and that should keep the moister out. It's a cheap quick fix.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 2:39:30 GMT
I'm toying with the idea of making a duct-tape scabbard for my SBG Bastard Sword when it gets here, since I can't really afford to make or commission one. I am crafty, tho, and though it might take a helluva lot of time and problem-solving, I think it might be cool. Use cardboard as a structural base, perhaps?
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Post by Dan Davis on Dec 5, 2009 13:25:45 GMT
Doesn't cardboard and wood come from the same source? Yes, but they do not have the same fiber density and cardboard lacks both the fiber strand orientation and the cross-sectional thickness of wood. In addition, the coat of paint or leather wrap on a wood-core scabbard acts as a weather sealant to prevent water absorption; without it wood scabbards would eventually end up as warped, damp sponges. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 17:28:31 GMT
You might consider going to your local paper distributor for a paper shipping carton.
They have a laminated poly moisture barrier, and the cartons come in sizes for up to 28" x 40"
paper sheets.
They just recycle these, so would be happy to give you one.
The cardboard is pretty heavy duty stuff, and should work well for your purposes.
Might be worth a try anyway, just a suggestion.
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