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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 0:59:38 GMT
I was wondering, What is the ideal weight for a longsword of about 50 inches.
Im talking about the Hanwei Bastard Sword. It weighs 3 lbs 10 ounces and that seems like rather a lot to me.
Ive made swords that long before and mine average about 2 and a half pounds.
Perhaps I havent looked at enough or maybe I make mine extra light, but it simply seems like a lot.
Also, what is the average weight for a single hand sword.
Again, mine end up at about 1 pound 12-14 ounces or so.
I realize that the "ideal" weight would be different for everyone, but my main point in the Hanwei sword.
I appreciate it.
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 1:12:56 GMT
3-4 pounds is right in the ideal spot for a sword of those proportions... as for one handers, about 2-2.5 pounds would be hitting the spot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 1:15:35 GMT
depends on the sword type...but yours seem pretty light for most sword types of the lengths you mentioned. The hanwei bastard sword isn't overweight for a sword of it's type.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 1:19:53 GMT
ok then
its just me
Im going to buy the Hanwei sword anyway I just wondered
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 5:43:06 GMT
3-4 pounds is right in the ideal spot for a sword of those proportions... as for one handers, about 2-2.5 pounds would be hitting the spot. So a 34.5" type XI sword with a 28" blade is heavy if it weighs in at 3lbs. 4.8oz.? |
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Nov 27, 2009 7:41:31 GMT
It's all relative, really... I'm not familiar with type XI's (I just pick up a few type definitions as I go along, lol), but that sword could be perfectly fine, or it could handle like a crowbar... A few things to consider: What's the POB? What's it intended for? Sparring, display, cutting? Is it one of those 'super tough' overbuilt swords? Because if it is (like some of DSA's older models), it would be overweight for it's type, yes, but not overweight for its purpose.  Does that make any sense?  I'm sure that someone more knowledgeable on the subject will jump in and give you a better explanation, but that's the just of it. ;D HTH! -Slayer |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 15:44:01 GMT
Weight isn't everything, it works together with POB and mass distribution but it is the most easily noticed when done wrong. Igaretto, why are you buying a sword why not just make it?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 17:31:11 GMT
3-4 pounds is right in the ideal spot for a sword of those proportions... as for one handers, about 2-2.5 pounds would be hitting the spot. So a 34.5" type XI sword with a 28" blade is heavy if it weighs in at 3lbs. 4.8oz.? Actually it is heavy. 34" is quite short. Btw, I don't think I have ever seen type XI that short. Type XI were cavalry swords and many of them had blades only 34"-36" long and overall length would be 40"+. Not all of course. And even on these 40"+ weight was mostly below 3lb. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 17:46:42 GMT
That sword daniel just described sounds like a DSA; it seems all of their singlehand swords fall within the 34-35" overall length, and almost all weigh in at or around 3lbs 4oz, give or take an ounce or two.
A 50" sword that is meant for armored combat (as opposed to civilian combat) I would expect it to be at or above 3.5 lbs; civilian longswords tended to be lighter because they didn't have to go up against armor.
lgarretto - why don't you post some pics and specs of your work; I know I would like to see them! I'm also interested to know why you'd buy one over making one?
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Post by genocideseth on Nov 27, 2009 19:02:36 GMT
I once got to handle a Hanwei Hand and a Half. I loved it. The weight and balance was fantastic in my opinion... But then again, I like some authority in my cuts. ;D It seemed a lot of the wight was in the handle, and a little bit on the blade. I want one of these swords. I like how that massive pommel looks.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 20:45:58 GMT
Im going to buy one instead of making it because I dont know everything.
And because my point for making swords is that I make them when I cant buy them
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2009 21:27:05 GMT
lgarretto, Whether a sword is to heavy or not is very subjective, some people prefer a bit of weight other so don’t. also the weight distribution and point of balance play a big part in whether a sword “feels” heavy or not. in my opinion 3lbs 10 oz for a 50” sword is a little heavy but not excessively so. it would be at the top end of what I would be happy with
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As I said above its all very subjective but for me, a 34.5" sword with a 28" blade which weighs 3lbs. 4.8oz. would be to heavy for me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 1:17:00 GMT
For a 50 inch sword, 3.10 lbs sounds relatively feasable to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 6:46:29 GMT
3-4 pounds is right in the ideal spot for a sword of those proportions... as for one handers, about 2-2.5 pounds would be hitting the spot. So a 34.5" type XI sword with a 28" blade is heavy if it weighs in at 3lbs. 4.8oz.? A 34.5 inch overall with a 28 inch blade isn´t a type XI. No if and or buts about it...it could be a XIa...but definitely not a type XI. The albion type XIs at just shy of 34 inch blades are pushing the lower limits of a type XI. As for the weight...yeah it´s over weight if your want something like a type XI...once againt no if and or but about it. The type XI would be around 2.5 lbs...and a sword that is shorter then the blade of one of these weights over 12 ouches more...yeah it´s overweight. Now as slayer and sam mentioned, PoB and mass distribution may make the sword handle well and be very usable as a sword...but as far as it being a type XI sword...it´s pretty much full of fail. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 15:05:25 GMT
That sword daniel just described sounds like a DSA; it seems all of their singlehand swords fall within the 34-35" overall length, and almost all weigh in at or around 3lbs 4oz, give or take an ounce or two. is right. Those are the stats and notes on the DSA Norman {AoV link}. The heft of such a short sword is my only hesitation on buying DSA for my first blade. Edited: Because the messageboard thinks Ebon has Multiple Personality issues. "diggsjj", "The Ebon Assassin", whatever. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 20:27:01 GMT
That sword daniel just described sounds like a DSA; it seems all of their singlehand swords fall within the 34-35" overall length, and almost all weigh in at or around 3lbs 4oz, give or take an ounce or two. Diggs is right. Those are the stats and notes on the DSA Norman {AoV link}. The heft of such a short sword is my only hesitation on buying DSA for my first blade. If you care about historical accuracy, the weight ain´t the only thing wrong with that sword...by a long shot. If you just want a sword...then weight isn´t the only issue you should take into consideration. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 1:17:15 GMT
I agree with KingRat. Like I said, I know its all very subjective, I just wondered what other people thought
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 5:58:21 GMT
that is a "personal" quesion ,man. ;D ;D ;D
there is not a perfect wieght for all .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 16:33:31 GMT
That sword daniel just described sounds like a DSA; it seems all of their singlehand swords fall within the 34-35" overall length, and almost all weigh in at or around 3lbs 4oz, give or take an ounce or two. Diggs is right. Those are the stats and notes on the DSA Norman {AoV link}. The heft of such a short sword is my only hesitation on buying DSA for my first blade. Who is right? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 17:14:28 GMT
What do you mean who is right???
It sounds like the first box has a efinition and the second has what it is. The title if you will
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