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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 4:13:46 GMT
hi, all .
i have a quick question to bother you , that do you wanta buy a high qulity sword that will cost you &1500 or even more ?
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 23, 2009 5:01:03 GMT
do I want to buy a High-end sword? YES! do I have $1500 to do it? ummmmm not exactly, no. at this point saving up for a $900 sword is the best I can do and even those will be severely scrutinized and thought about before I start stock-piling the green so I can pull the trigger.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 5:19:29 GMT
Man I WISH I had $1500 to buy a High End sword! I think I would drop it on a certain Ranger sword that lives in Australia right now... ;D The point is, I do think $1500 is an appropriate price for something if it represents $1500 worth of High-Quality. I would indeed want to buy a sword of that caliber if it interests me greatly and feels right for me. I would LOVE to buy one, in fact. However, that's not remotely feasible for me right now. Even a $300 to $500 sword is a big purchase for me, but, thankfully, options are such nowadays that I have a great chance of being satisfied with the return for my money on a sword in that price range. There are some great swords on the market at a price that is feasible for me. But there are some SUPERB swords in the price range above me, and just because their expense is out of my reach does not mean I don't appreciate them or think the price is justified. I would TOTALLY want to buy a high quality sword that would cost me $1500 or more. I just can't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 5:52:25 GMT
resonable ,man.
as to me , i can spend USD 300 buying a very very well made sword , it can be very strong and sharp as COLD STEEL , right? but i can not get a fine polishing blade wit h a fine scabbard .
there is some thing i wanta say here , normally high ends do not mean high qulity .
naive thoughts , do not mind. be cool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 6:21:57 GMT
there is some thing i wanta say here , normally high ends do not mean high qulity . Hence why I said "IF" in my post. There IS some overpriced stuff out there with a high-end price tag that is not backed up by a high quality product. However, with most respectable manufacturers, there is a "you get what you pay for" rule of thumb that holds true, and those are the cases where I would be more than willing to pay for the extra quality if I had the money. In fact, I would say that "normally" high-end and high-quality go hand in hand. John Lundemo's stuff, Christian Fletcher's work, Rick Barrett's creations, and High-end stuff from Albion, with their high-end pricetags, DO mean high quality, for the most part. But not the sort of quality I can realistically pay for, lol. ;D naive thoughts , do not mind. be cool. ;D Not sure what you mean, here?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 6:43:54 GMT
i have another question that how to defined a high qulity blade ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 6:52:45 GMT
i have another question that how to defined a high qulity blade ? ;D A lot. A high quality sword isn't something a beginner can really pick out of the bunch more often than not. Steel quality and sensitivity, heat treatment, blade shape, fitting material and quality...on and on and on. Is there something you have in mind? (Edited to fix tenses. I apparently can't wrote good.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 7:10:09 GMT
how to defined , it is a subjective question , i think if you wanta buy a hung-up wear , more beautful more good , it is right? but , it is not what i mean here , i willingly set up strengh and well design as the standard of my judgment here !
strengh is a very important factor to long and thin swords and protecting them from easliy breaking . well design can let you manipulate it very soomth and fast !
i like those things that can meet my standards !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 9:15:49 GMT
A sword is worth only what the collector wishes to pay for it; as with all collectables, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are $3600 swords out there that I would not give $10 for, and I have bought $89 closeout swords that I would have paid $1000 for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 16:22:43 GMT
Agree with you, Odingaard.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 23, 2009 17:49:56 GMT
in my point of view even mid to low end swords should have decent fittings, good steel properly heat treated, and a basic concept of proper design if I am going to buy it. good examples of swords with these qualities are: Valiant Armoury practical series, and Hanwei Practical and raptor katana.
when it comes time for me to be interested in a "high quality" sword I need to see good harmonic balance, proper shaping and geometry for the type, greater sensitivity in weight and balance, consistant finish, and mastery of the more subtle and complex aspects of sword making (such as propper hada in katana). the more of these things the sword has and the better done these things are the more I expect to pay for the sword. certainly Caveat Emptor applies here as high price does not always mean high quality.
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Post by ecovolo on Nov 23, 2009 18:23:30 GMT
i have another question that how to defined a high qulity blade ? ;D Good durable steel, well-designed and durable fittings, and if it's modeled after a historical piece, it had better be historically accurate. Also, the forge/ smithy it comes from had better have a good reputation for producing good blades to make it worth the price they're asking for. --Edward
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 19:16:34 GMT
I beleive he asked about the blade rather than an entire sword.... In that case, it's about the type of steel, type and level of treatment it's put through, level of overall work (for example, left-over hammer marks are a mark of bad work), and blade geometry. Type and level of polish is subjective, but you can count that in as well.
All of those define what a "good" blade is, overall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2009 16:21:42 GMT
man,i do mean sword , not blade , i am sorry for bad expresion on that !
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Nov 24, 2009 19:40:40 GMT
I would have answered the same even if he had meant blade. if you have a super high quality blade and crap furniture then you have a crap sword that merely has the potential to become something good with further work.
far too often around here we focus on the blade alone and that is really not the whole story. the furniture is just as important as the blade.
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Post by Avery on Nov 24, 2009 23:30:54 GMT
There are so many things that go into a high end blade. Both Odin and Tom, as well as the other guys covered fairly well. Blade balance, bevel, harmonics, steel type, smithing process, man the list goes on and on. The first question I'd ask is " what are your standards" I assume, since you referred to a scabbard and not a saya, that you are interested in Euros. If that is the case, there are a lot of makers and blade types we could discuss. But lets talk first of what blade type you'd like. What style are you looking for?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2009 6:42:38 GMT
as a man of sword company , i really understand what your thoughts ,man. at lower ends productions , we have been focusing on strength and flexibilty , to make super-powerful blades , with simple Furniture ,some time i have to say that a little bit shabby .
but upper ends is not the same thing ! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2009 6:47:05 GMT
Hey Dingy, did you manage to get in touch with Paul concerning your swords? I'm still curious to see what it's all about!
Federico
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2009 6:52:15 GMT
ya , i did , but no response .
i wanta sell him swords we made , to be frankly ! ;D
there is no shame to say it ,right ?
LET' ROCK!
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Nov 25, 2009 7:09:57 GMT
i wanta sell him swords we made , to be frankly ! ;D Ahhh, that explains this: there is some thing i wanta say here , normally high ends do not mean high qulity . Maybe you can share with us some more info about your company?
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