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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 6:13:52 GMT
So, awhile ago Sam the moderator posted a design thread about how to hilt up a blade with a forward recurve, and it got my mind a-buzzing a bit. And then just this week, I watched some of "The Mummy Returns" with some friends and remembered how badass Ardeth Bay's yataghan sword is in that movie. Unfortunately, you never really get a solid good look at the weapon in the film, it's flashing by too quickly and slicing and dicing bad guys... So...inspiration struck--Long story short, I made some free time and did some drawing today...Without furthur explanation, here's my version of an "Egyptian-themed" yataghan that I'd imagine he'd be wielding. At least, it's the sort I would want if I had to cut down some warriors of Anubis: Here's a blurry close-up of the hilt (Sorry for the bad camera, ) What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 8:16:07 GMT
I like it. Simple and elegant, with nice curves. And the "eagle" handle is pretty neat.
Federico
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 14:22:16 GMT
I'd buy one. Kinda reminds me of the Master Cutlery Arya sword, from Eragon. Of them all, it was the most attractive to me. Nicely done, Luna.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 19:10:26 GMT
Thanks, guys! I was going for something simple and sleek. I meant the hilt to be a falcon, representing Horus. That's not just because he's a really important figure in Egyptian mythology, but also because Ardeth Bay has a falcon named Horus. Ebon Paladin, I never saw Eragon, but I just looked up the sword you mentioned, and you're right that it's a cool-looking blade. And kinda reminds me of this one. I like the bone-colored handle, I think the mummy design would look cool with a carved ivory-or-bone-like handle for the falcon. Bright and elegant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 20:02:26 GMT
Look up some of Bill Bagwell's Bowie knives, he does a few Falcon shaped handles that are very classy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2009 20:08:10 GMT
Thanks, Sam. I looked him up and that man makes some great knives! I found some nice falcon handles, but all in dark colors. I wonder what a one in white holly or something would look like.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 3:11:17 GMT
I think there is too much in the way of belly swell on yours and possibly an upswept tip might be better. Not a bad design though, I'd certainly buy one, just for the fact that it is a yatagan If you want images;
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 3:25:02 GMT
What do you mean by "upswept tip" exactly? I tried to curve the tip back up to be in-line with the handle if one were to point the blade forward, which it looks like his does (Nice pictures, btw, thank you for posting them). As for belly swell, I was approximating the curve based on one of the screen used stunt swords for a nameless magjii that I found here, and I think I don't have any more than in the movie. Maybe less: As well, the profile width actually changes very little along the length of either sword if you look closely, so I guess I'm not sure what you mean, lol. I'd like to be able to picture what you're describing, because it would be a cool sword either way. *EDIT: Reaction to inclusion of pictures*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 5:03:07 GMT
I guess what I mean is that as the blade bodies out into the belly of the blade it should actually taper slightly and by upswept tip I mean something like this; This is actually my favourite type of yatagan and as a cutting blade it works something like a sabre. Now the tip of the yatagan should be higher than the handle slightly to offset the slicing capability of the weapon, a yatagan is not a thrusting weapon and so the point doesn't need to align with the spine of the blade and if you do so then it actually reduces the potential slicing ability of the blade.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 9:29:35 GMT
Lunaman, that's sexy as. Nice design!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 17:18:40 GMT
Great design, simple and effective with parts that works well together.
I'm thinking the head of Horus and the bolster in antiqued brass, the middle part in carved ebony or camel bone, or ebony wing and ivory.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 17:46:12 GMT
Unfortunately, you never really get a solid good look at the weapon in the film, it's flashing by too quickly and slicing and dicing bad guys... I can think of two fairly decent shots: there's one relatively clear shot of the blade in the oasis scene when Ardeth converse with Jonathan. (The whole "are you any good with that thing" bit.) And during the battle with the Anubis Warriors near the end there's a pretty close shot of the hilt after Ardeth throws it at an enemy, IIRC. *is the kind of person who watches sword scenes in movies over and over to catch all the details*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 19:04:49 GMT
Haha, good call, Anders. My buddies weren't willing to let me pause the movie to check out the swords, so I guess my recollection was that there weren't clear shots of it. Tip o' the hat to you. Thanks, vyapada and Ichiban, I like the brass idea, too. 'Wraith, I see what you mean, now. That's a nice-looking blade!! I guess the way mine is, with the tip in-line with the thrust, makes it look a bit like a hybrid between a traditional yatagan and a khopesh. Which kinda works, lol. It looks like the tip on the movie sword actually stays below the line of the handle now that I look at that screenshot closer. Three different ways to make a cool-looking blade
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2009 23:56:14 GMT
Tis one of the reaons I hate movie swords, because the dynamics are often shoddy. If you looke at the piece from the movie properly the curve at the front of the sword is shorter than that at the back, they should be the same length. Sorry to critique your design so heavily.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 5:53:02 GMT
No worries, mate. It's good to see people share their opinions, that's the fun of asking for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 18:07:02 GMT
Haha, good call, Anders. My buddies weren't willing to let me pause the movie to check out the swords, so I guess my recollection was that there weren't clear shots of it. Get new friends. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 18:46:14 GMT
I'm as impressed with the smoothness and effortlessness in your drawing as I am with the sword design itself. Simple, but sleek and sexy.
Well done!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2009 22:23:51 GMT
Thanks, crockett! That really means a lot to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2009 18:26:46 GMT
Nice idea, I like the flowing lines, though I have always wondered, how well swords like this would handle, would it try to twist in your hand when you cut.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2009 18:36:06 GMT
Thanks, KingRat. I suppose it wouldn't be very different from the handling of a saber of similar size. I know bloodwraith knows a lot about yatagans, maybe he'd be able to explain?
If you were cutting with the blunt side it might want to twist, but I don't think the forward curve would offer much of a problem. Khopeshs, kukris, and several filipino blades curve forward in a similar manner, and I'm assuming they handle well enough to have been used for centuries. But I don't really know, I haven't handled any of them.
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