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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 17:35:48 GMT
This is a subject to pops up often concerning their longswords mainly and one that baffles me.
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I'd like to know (if you are fimiliar with the said aspect) what is it that constitutes this labeling by yourself or not. Is it from a historical standpoint / comparision?....is from testing against multipule applications?.....it is from what's been told on the various forums?...etc, etc.
After some debate occurs, I let my feelings be known (though some of you areadly do).
Keep it freindly, informative......
let the games begin.......
Cheers,
Bill
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 16, 2009 18:47:57 GMT
I only have one longer Windlass blade, the Military Sword/Rapier. When held straight out from the shoulder the tip sags maybe a half inch. When held point up and struck firmly on the pommel there is about an inch and a half of play in the tip. I consider this flexible and normal for the type not "whippy". I used to think a sword was supposed to be very stiff, I don't think that anymore. Depends on the sword type and it's purpose. I don't have a sword I would call "whippy". Of course personal preference comes into play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 18:52:43 GMT
My CMS is a great deal stiffer and does not "bend" when held. If you do strike the pomel, the tip does move a little but I agree with what RicWilly said, swords should be flexible up to an amount otherwise they would break easily.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 19:22:09 GMT
Well, I have had three Windlass swords and the only one that I felt was not really stiff enough was a rapier (exact model unknown) I had the Windlass Acre sword with a 33" blade and it was about perfect, fairly stiff, yet not too heavy IMO at about 3 lbs. Should have kept that one....Anyways for a thrusting sword, I feel that my rapier is a bit insufficient. I like the value for the money you get with Windlass swords....but think it's best to buy from a merchant like KOA who has a good return policy if you don't like what you get.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 19:40:06 GMT
After re-reading my post I realized that I really did not answer the whole question.....As a test medium I have been using some aged fence boards. A good thrusting sword should be able to at least handle some half rotten wood I would think.....Real historic rapiers were usually quite stiff from what I have gathered....
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Oct 16, 2009 20:02:36 GMT
Windlasses are far too whippy. It seems that they whip the really nice ones right out of production.
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Post by skystone on Oct 16, 2009 20:05:41 GMT
The only windlass swords I own are rapiers. Just the other day I cut the basket off of my beater. I left the cross guard including the finger rings on top of it and the knuckle blow. The blades are quite flexible when flexed. My favorite and medium of choice is coconuts. They are in abundance where I reside and people consider them a danger. So they are often cut in bunches and left in piles around town. With my rapiers I can thrust right through them with a good plunge, but it is by no means easy as pie. Sometimes the coconut does not come off the blade easily and the blade bends with a coconut stuck at the end. I can slash deeply into the coconut but do not recall if I have ever halved one in a single blow. (entire coconut including the husk)I do not think I have. I believe mine are just fine for their purpose, but think they would be all the more better for thrusting if the blade was just a hair stiffer and no more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 21:12:40 GMT
Hey skystone, that's pretty impressive to be able to impale coconuts with a Windlass rapier. I would imagine you would have to make the thrust at just the right angle to get that right.....Kiltedcossack, no kidding about that! I can't believe they discontinued the type XIV sword for example.....What were they thinking???
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 22:15:07 GMT
I have their "war Sword" which is basically thier Sowrd of Ibelin with plain fittings. If held horizontally the blad sags by maybe an inch at most, and does have a good deal of flex to it. I've never done any cuttign with it but I've used it for some simple longsword drills and found that the bendyness is only an issue if your edge alignment is horribly off. Of course, this is a sword meant mostly for cutting, were it of a type meant for heavy thrusting I think this degree of flex would be a little too much. My other Windlass is their type XIV, which has an extrememly stiff blade.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2009 22:23:54 GMT
I have never been able to understand their policies for discontinuing swords. I get that they're making room for producing new models, but you'd think they'd keep around the ones that everybody loves! Maybe it's that more people buy the so-so stuff based on the "Hey dude, let's get that sword--doesn't it look sempriniin'? Whoa, don't spill your Mountain Dew..." demographic and the models they keep are more profitable on a strictly dollars-and-cents rationale.
I don't know. It seems like the well-reviewed stuff gets kicked off the line way too quickly.
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