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Post by enkidu on Oct 14, 2009 19:58:47 GMT
For the ones i tried : Temper : doesnt he use some kind of aerospatial heat-treatment ? Its as good as it can be. Handling : Only Tinker beats it. Rigidity : depends on the model.
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Post by Tom K. (ianflaer) on Oct 14, 2009 20:01:11 GMT
heat treat/temper are superb
edge retention is superb (I have sharpened it less than any other sword I use regularly and it is still as sharp as I want it).
rigidity depends on which sword you are talking about, some are very stiff some are not so stiff but either way the stiffness is appropriate to the type so I rank that as excellent to superb as well.
the thing is: a lot of people have some pretty serious mis-understandings on how stiff a sword should be. I was one of them until recently. sadly, hollywood has led us to believe some pretty wrong-headed things about swords. Gus' swords challenge many of these misconceptions and can occasionally fell wrong to some people.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 20:43:17 GMT
I know the cutting ability is nigh on unmatched, but do they have a good solid temper?? What about edge retention? Handling? Rigidity? I dont know, I'm not questioning their atributes at all. Just asking If the temper was off, the sword's flexibility would be compromised, making it perform under-par, if not take a permanent set in the blade. That's not a complaint I've ever heard of an Atrim...or even of the Atrim designed pieces by Valiant Armoury. I have one, it handles like a dream, albeit a bit tip-heavy but that can be quickly changed by using a heavier pommel if one is so inclined. As far as edge retention goes, I've never had to sharpen mine after it was sharpened initially by the previous owner - while I don't cut regularly, I do on occasion and this sword performs as I expect it to, and will continue to do so. As far as rigidity goes, it really depends on what the sword was made for...earlier models, pre-1400s were more flexible as they were cut/slash oriented swords. You may notice that swords with more flexibility cut better than their stiffer counterparts. When you start getting into Type XV and up, the swords get stiffer and become more thrust oriented (the rigidity aids in the thrust- thrust with a flexible blade and you'll note that it will not penetrate as deeply) - which coincided with the advancements in armor (plate to be precise).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 20:56:05 GMT
(off the subject a bit) how good are Del Tin blades?? They seem to be a bit less expensive overall and there is a Del Tin Orcrist blade which I was thinking about getting
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Oct 14, 2009 21:02:59 GMT
(off the subject a bit) how good are Del Tin blades?? They seem to be a bit less expensive overall and there is a Del Tin Orcrist blade which I was thinking about getting Decent blades but not sharp...
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Post by randomnobody on Oct 14, 2009 21:05:49 GMT
I understand Del Tin are quite hefty, presumably by virtue of their blunt build, somewhere between Windlass and DSA...but overall they seem to be good swords, if you can sharpen them up and deal with the weight. I'd rather have an AT.
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Post by Marc Ridgeway on Oct 14, 2009 21:13:56 GMT
I'd rather have an AT. You can say that again....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 21:29:49 GMT
I understand Del Tin are quite hefty, presumably by virtue of their blunt build, somewhere between Windlass and DSA...but overall they seem to be good swords, if you can sharpen them up and deal with the weight. I'd rather have an AT. Some are a bit hefty but many are very true to the historical examples and they are really durable blades. lgarretto, if you are interested in any particular Del Tin sword, ask. I have handled many and I might help you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 21:34:54 GMT
As would I but I dont have that kind of money. Im just looking for a fairly cheap blank I can make a hilt to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 21:35:52 GMT
What do you know about the del tin orcrist???
And where can you get one??
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Post by enkidu on Oct 14, 2009 21:37:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2009 21:56:01 GMT
Yep, and you can order blank blades directly from Del Tin. They cost me about $250-$300 here in Croatia.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 14, 2009 22:14:40 GMT
Personally, I know nothing about the DT Ocrist other than what is found here on SBG. As for where you can find them, the answer (as far as I am aware) is nowhere, at least if you want the whole thing assembled. The bare blade is available from Albion for $140 in their 'Moat Sale'. My impression, though, is that once they're gone, they're gone. Hope this helps! ;D P.S. Double posting is considered 'bad form' by many. It's not a big deal, it just kind of clutters up a thread. Basically, just try to only post once in a row if you can help it, and edit a post to include afterthoughts rather than posting again. Very sorry if the above offends you; it's not my intention at all! Just trying to help. EDIT: Wow, that was ironic, lol. That is, having an afterthought and editing my post to include it. Anyway, it looks like the others beat me too the punch, so to speak. ;D Enkidu and Luka are certainly correct, although I don't know if DelTin makes the Orcrist bareblades anymore. Also, I believe that you can get bare blade from ATrim for around $300. I KNOW that you can get bareblades from Lundemo/Odinblades for around $300-$350, if you want to get the highest quality stuff for the best price. Sorry for the rant, lol, as well as the long add-on! ;D -Slayer
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