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Post by Kilted Cossack on Oct 10, 2009 1:37:19 GMT
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SlayerofDarkness
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 10, 2009 1:48:21 GMT
I don't see why this idea wouldn't work but then again, I know next to nothing about baskethilts. And don't you mean darkWOOD armoury? Please let us know how this plan turns out if you proceed with it. It'll be interesting, at the very least. -Slayer
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Post by alvin on Oct 10, 2009 1:52:06 GMT
I for one think that it's a pretty nice idea. I have an Atrim blade at Darkwood Armory right now to have an Early English Baskethilt installed. It should be ready in a couple of weeks.
Send Scott Wilson an email and explain your proposal. I'm sure that he can help you. He is a great fellow.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Oct 10, 2009 2:48:28 GMT
Slayer:
You got me!
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Oct 10, 2009 2:48:51 GMT
Alvin:
I may just do that, I may just.
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Post by ShooterMike on Oct 10, 2009 3:07:43 GMT
I think the EMSHS blade has a bit more profile taper than was common with most historic Scottish and English baskethilts, but it's your sword. If you like it that's what counts. And if you decide you don't, nothing says it has to be permanent. This seems to be a common idea around here. I'm waiting on an ATrim 1315+ blade to fit to my Christian Fletcher English baskethilt.
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Post by alvin on Oct 10, 2009 3:59:32 GMT
I suppose that there may be a "common" blade found on historic Scottish and English baskethilt swords. But my research has shown that these weapons had a plethora of blade types...backsword - wide and more narrow, broadsword - wide and more narrow, blades with an almost rapier blade, short ones, long ones, and some with blades several centuries old at the time that the baskethilt was added.
So, yes, whatever "floats your boat" is really the most important factor. One might want to consider where the center of gravity might lie after a baskethilt is added as it could affect the swords' cutting ability. My Atrim, while fairly short but within the lengths of historical blades, had a COG of over 5 1/2 inches in it's original Atrim configuration. So, I am pretty confident that it will retain a good cutting ability with the new baskethilt.
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Post by Kilted Cossack on Oct 10, 2009 15:12:11 GMT
For clarification purposes . . .
My question was more aimed at the mystical/mechanical/marvelous aspects, rather than the historical. That is, I was more concerned with whether the substitution of a basket hilt for the wheel pommel would affect the balance/performance of the blade.
When it comes to historical accuracy, I'm willing to squint!
ShooterMike: I hadn't realized that Christian Fletcher even made basket hilts!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2009 15:19:30 GMT
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Post by alvin on Oct 10, 2009 16:03:29 GMT
....When it comes to historical accuracy, I'm willing to squint! Me too !! That was basically the point that I wanted to make. That one can find just about any type blade on historical baskethilts. Haven't seen one - historical - with a katana blade but, if one had been available, some Scot or Englishman probably would have at least given it a thought. Heck, it kind of looks neat to me. My Atrim blade is of a type that is normally thought of as pre-dating the 16th century. But if someone gets anal about it and says you-can't-use-that-type-blade-cause-it-ain't-historical, I'll just respond that I had an old family heirloom blade sitting around the manor and decided to put a baskethilt on it just because I could. It's been done already, so is historical in concept. The Tinker EMSHS looks to have a COG/POB of a little over 5 inches. I would expect a baskethilt to bring it further back towards the hilt. Whether the change will be acceptable to you would depend on your requirements. The early 17th century English baskethilt that was linked in the OP appears to be one of Darkwood's lighter baskethilts, so the change may not be too great.
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