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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 4:25:44 GMT
With all the talk on my cutting thread I'm interested in what people would consider a thick European sword, weight doesn't really matter I'm 6'1/230 and I don't actually have to fight in a battle line for a few hours. Would it be best to order a custom sword from a good european-style forge?
EDIT - To make perfectly clear, interested in a thick/strong blade but would prefer a manageable length.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 4:30:13 GMT
The strongest blades would be Angel Swords, but their prices make Albions look cheap. However, Darksword comes in second and would be more cost effective. But...Darkswords can be difficult to sharpen (you have to take off alot of metal to get a proper edge) and are significantly heavier than their historic counterparts. Though some would argue with me, DSA are great for banging against other metal objects, but they are not ideal for cutting.
When you speak of cutting, I would steer you toward a VA Practical Arming or Longsword (depending on what length you prefer) for a good first buy and the most bang for the buck.
And that is my .02 cents!
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Post by kidcasanova on Oct 2, 2009 4:43:45 GMT
Talk to Tinker, after seeing that beast he made for Lancelot Chan, I'm sure he could help you out. That thing is a whopper and still cuts great!
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Oct 2, 2009 6:10:22 GMT
What do you want? If you know what you want we can make it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 6:52:38 GMT
Don't really know what I want other than the general info posted above, I'll check out some places mentioned here and read a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 7:08:19 GMT
As far as the VA Practical Longsword I wouldn't exactly call that a thick and heavy European sword. I haven't gotten around to measuring mine yet, but I wouldn't call it thick by any standards... unless you are comparing it to a sheet of aluminum foil.
I've read that the VA Practical Arming sword is a bit more stout then her longer sister, but it's meant to be wielded with only one hand instead of the optional two for the longsword.
The problem that I see with getting a thicker blade is that for lighter cutting the target will "see" more of the blade. That basically boils down to a harder cut. The width of the blade will push the target as it's cutting it, to a certain degree.
I can only speak for the VA Practical Longsword as it is currently the only sword I own. I love it, and I couldn't of asked for more out of my first sword.
Could we wager a guess that you want a sword that is: -Not whippy at all -between 35" and 45" -most likely a 2 hander, but could go for a hand and a half -European in design, but not necessarily historically accurate -maybe 1/8" thick -very shallow distal taper -shallow profile taper
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 7:22:37 GMT
Yes for all but the last three as I'm not really schooled enough to know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 8:31:02 GMT
A sword does not have to be overly thick to be strong. Unneeded thickness adds to weight, but will do little to add to the performance of the sword. It's a fine balance between material, tempering, design, and the smith that will make you the perfect sword.
I can honestly say that you don't want to have anything custom made until you have tried out several different models of swords and perhaps even adopted a refined cutting / swordsmanship style to determine what will work best for you.
Different strokes for different folks: For example, I can cut well with an Oakeshott Type XVb, but many people find the edge alignment with this type of sword too difficult to bother with. I don't like Type X swords because they are too tip heavy for my style. And, I am not a large fan of single-handed swords because I practice two-handed swordsmanship.
Lay your hands on some different swords and see how they feel to you. Does the sword come alive in your hand or does it feel cumbersome. Is it made by a reputable company or by a company with shoddy quality control. Are other people happy with the sword? Is it a value for the money? Address these things and the sword you want will jump out at you.
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 2, 2009 8:51:21 GMT
I'd agree with what's already been said. Here's another option;
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 9:52:20 GMT
dont know the maker and havent found anybody else who knows, but its a 1.53 kg single hander. dont get much heavier than that. huge for a single hander
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 13:01:32 GMT
My vote is with either a darskword armoury I just got my black knight a couple days ago its a hefty beast but it is surprisingly well balanced and actually handles quite nicely and bare in mind though i have little sword expirience I am comparing to a bristol ( which is a damn fine sword) do i prefer the handling of my britsol Yes but the black knight has a beastly killer feel which i greatly enjoy of course it is not sharp
my second recomendation for a heavy sword is the Valiant armoury original line falchion which is ridiculously thick and heavy to the point where its not even practical but if you want an sword shaped axe (practically a maul) go for that
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 13:17:22 GMT
Angelsword HA.
Maybe the ones they didn't have with them at they're stand that had actually tight guards, instead of the ones they did have that all rattled.
Tinker just posted that big ass sword video by lance chan.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 2, 2009 13:18:29 GMT
Have you seen John Lundemo's latest deal in the Manufacturers' and Vendors' Section? Check it out here: /index.cgi?board=europeansword&action=display&thread=12561&page=1This deal is your best bet, IMO. A full-custom sword at production prices, what more is there to ask for? ;D Apart from a custom, though, DSA may be a good choice. -Slayer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2009 14:19:01 GMT
To me it sounds like you might enjoy owning generation 2's 12th century. RicWilly posted a video of him using it. Generation 2 also has a lifetime warranty on their swords, so if it does break you can replace it. Don't take my word for it - ask everyone else and see what they think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2009 4:10:21 GMT
Thanks all for input.
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Post by sparky on Oct 3, 2009 18:31:19 GMT
I'd agree with what's already been said. Here's another option; That sword really sings Ric.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2009 20:34:24 GMT
I hope this isn't too off topic, but I agree with Sparky, Ric, that's a gorgeous sound! And they call it a beater? Wow! Did you do anything different to it?
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 5, 2009 20:40:14 GMT
Nope, Pete. I bought it second hand off ebay, before I really knew what a real sword was. As far as I know it's how it came from the manufacturer. It's my understanding it's an older model 12th Century before Gen2 redid their line to make their swords more user friendly. It's a heavy bastard but an old friend.
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Post by SlayerofDarkness on Oct 5, 2009 20:46:09 GMT
It's a heavy bastard but an old friend. Just like you, Ric! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;D That's a pretty sweet sword, though. Thanks for the vid! ;D -Slayer
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