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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 16:37:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 18:50:07 GMT
Bad ASS
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 18:51:11 GMT
Did he kill the previous owner for it? I hope he did, I really do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 19:20:24 GMT
That is a fine collector's piece and probably quite valuable. Keep it safe and don't cut too many waterbottles with it. lol
yis, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 22:56:11 GMT
Beautiful knife (barring the Nazi markings). You have a very valuable piece of history there. It has always irked me that the Nazis ripped off the fantastic Swiss "Holbein" style for their blades, thereby giving the knife a bad image.
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 18, 2009 0:01:51 GMT
I do rather enjoy these daggers, as bladed things go. This one is particularly pretty.
Didn't know the actual name of the style, now I do. Thanks Krieg. I shall now look into these.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 2:02:49 GMT
Yes, the "Holbein" dagger goes back to Switzerland in the 15th and 16th centuries AD and was popular among Swiss and Germans alike. Holbein (IIRC) was actually an artist in whoms work this type of blade frequently appeared (hence, the name). The Nazis "borrowed" the design for their officer's daggers of WWII. Funny, actully, Boker got ripped up one side and down the other on some of the knife forums this past year for releasing a couple special versions of the Holbein. "Why is Boker putting out Nazi daggers?" was a common theme, though Boker's versions lack anything even vaguely resembling a Nazi marking. Even when confronted with the design's true historical origins, many were still not convinced. Goes to show how much the Nazis damaged this fine design's reputation. Dig the blade, sheath, and price tag on this one ;D: www.boker.de/us/index.php?c=3000&a=121551DAM&s1=swiss&s2=0&s3=9999&p=&pp=0
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 18, 2009 2:27:53 GMT
Amusing how people can be with these things. I dunno about that piece...I love the grip, and the sheath...but i don't care for pattern welding and that particular pattern doesn't really strike me... It's also a bit longer and narrower than I had in mind for the type, though I'm sure historically they varied as much as the next knife. Still, interesting. If I owned a car...I wouldn't sell it for this one, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 14:23:20 GMT
Did he kill the previous owner for it? I hope he did, I really do. No actually. My grandfather fought and lost his leg in Italy fighting the Germans. Many of these relecs were passed around as German troops were rounded up and surrendered weapons and arms. The SA were promiment during Hitlers rise to power in the 20's and 30's but by the end of WWII their function and power had been taken over by the SS. Many SA officers were executed by Hitler and his SS as well as the Gestapo during what was called the Night of the Long Knives. The SS officers carried identical daggers except the insignia on the handle was SS rather than SA. The Motor Corps had them as well, with black sheaths.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 11:46:56 GMT
It's also a bit longer and narrower than I had in mind for the type, though I'm sure historically they varied as much as the next knife. I'm no expert, but I'd expect to see quite a variety in blade lenghts and widths in historical examples too. Like you, I also prefer a bit wider blade.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 17:18:56 GMT
That's a swell looking knife. I'll be the first to say that the insignia doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, I think they're well designed and quite well cast. You sir, have my envy!
M.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 7:47:44 GMT
Very nice spoil of war there. It's worth quite alot on the collector's market...
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Post by sparky on Oct 3, 2009 20:44:34 GMT
Very nice on your acquisition! It's kinda cool holding history in your hand, at least it is to me.
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