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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 8:48:41 GMT
I was reading some reviews and came across one where the guy had used some leather straps to modify a scabbard into something he could wear on a belt: Is there some place I can go to get some sort of instructions on the types of knots used to secure the scabbard or perhaps where I could buy some of that flexible looking leather or maybe even some premade "loopy thing with the buckle" I'm painfully new to all of this, so I haven't quite gotten the terms and lingo down. But in short, how can I make a scabbard belt worthy to any belt?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 11:06:57 GMT
I don't know where you are in the world so I'll make this as general as I can: start at the local leather merchant -Tandy or whomever, and tell them what you want to do, maybe show them this picture too. OR go to the local flea market or jumble sale or the "dollar store" and buy some old cheap belts that look like they might work for you. OR hit the horseman's supply for a pair of english style reins that you can use. If you have any friends with horses you might be able to get what you need from them. Find a yard/meter or so of heavy string or light rope 1/4 inch-5mm to practice knot tying and see what you can do. There are lots of books about knots and probably more than a few websites.
HTH, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 14:17:27 GMT
Kenny, I would point him to Gaffer's website- not only will he learn how to make the belts, but he can learn how to make scabbards and shields too. Gaffer makes some good stuff, Veldruk. You ought to check him out: www.yeoldegaffers.com/default.asp
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 14:44:18 GMT
Veldruk, The Paladin is right-again- Yeoldegaffer has lots of useful how-tos on his website.
Yis, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 17:12:49 GMT
Yar!
This is more or less exactly what I'm looking for. It talks about what type of leather is used and different ways to apply it to the scabbard!
And even more exciting then that is that this will supply me with new reading material! Woot!
Thanks Ebon!
And as far as trying belts or all that jazz. I've looked thru the belts and everything I find is to stiff of leather. But after looking at that picture again, perhaps a leather purse strap would suit me well.
And saddly I don't have any tanneries, leather workers or hell, even a fabric shop around where I live. I'm sure I could drive an hour and get to one, but thats a little out of the way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2009 17:54:42 GMT
Putting neatsfoot oil on leather makes it soft and flexible. In this post I show a disassembled sword frog I made, the lower two pieces in the first picture are the ones that wrap around the scabbard.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2009 1:09:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2009 22:22:01 GMT
!!! These two pieces of information are exactly what I'm looking for. Now all I need to do is to find a place locally (or online) where I could buy leather. I had checked out a few sites already, but the minimum order would be around 80 bucks. Which I'm sure is cheap for (18?) square feet of raw leather, but I need quantity brought down as I'm going to need at least 3 different weights of leather for what I have in mind. ...Which is, a multi position sword bandolier. Sword belts and frogs are nice and all, but I don't like wearing the weight on my waist. Also, I'd like to be able to strap a sword to my side and a shotgun to my back... you know... for the zombie apocalypse =P I've found some here: www.leatherlore.com/baldrics_bandoliers.htm but I want to try to keep the cost under 60 bucks. But if the materials turn out to be 60 bucks, well, it'll be worth it just to make something to my personal tastes Thanks again guys! Once I find the materials I'll begin construction and post a link on it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 10:32:36 GMT
good info. indeed! Been wanting to try something like this, now I have good reference material...thanks
Bill
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 11:51:16 GMT
Any chance you have a local goodwill or second hand clothing store around you.They usually sell old belts that were donated because they are those older wide 70's styles and they make pretty good baldrics,most of them have decent buckles on them.I stop by the local good will and buy used belts for 2 or 3 dollars and cut them actually short and make recycled dog collars out of them,some belts have really nice decorations on them and make great dog collars.Cant hurt to look. If not there's always Tandy or I've used these guys before for cord. www.leathercordusa.com/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 12:47:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 20:12:17 GMT
AH HAH! I hadn't even thought to do a search for straps the last time I was at Tandy Leather. My first visit there was to look for leather to wrap handles and whatnot in. This is wonderful!
The only drawback I'm seeing is that the leather is 8-9oz leather, which is find as long as I take the "thinning" blade to it and basically scrape off leather for the scabbard straps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 20:58:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2009 21:41:15 GMT
Well, if a place provides an abundance of needed items and reasonable cost, then they tend to become the market leader. Like Wal-Mart =D But yes, the straps and the beveler is exactly what I need. I'm not incredibly sure how to sew leather yet. I saw something that looked like a manual sewing machine, but I don't think I need to get that fancy. I had planned on just getting a "punch" tool to make the hole, then a needle and some twine to sew with. I'm also thinking about rivets instead of sewing too, I haven't made up my mind about that yet. And also I'll need to stain it. Granted, I'm sure the default leather is a nice color, but I was thinking of going a little darker. I might just settle with black for my first project, www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/2605-01.aspx?feature=Product_50&kw=stainbut as I get more swords, I'll be making more sword bandoliers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2009 1:01:57 GMT
I should probably mention that neatsfoot oil on its own will darken the leather to a certain degree. The belt for this sword of mine here was originally the same color as those leather strips, and I didn't dye it at all, that's just from the neatsfoot oil, and I think it's a pretty decent color. Anyway, keep in mind when selecting your dye that if you use neatsfoot oil on it as well that it will make the dye much darker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2009 16:49:36 GMT
Veldruk, for your needs regarding leather to work with, try these folks out: www.brettunsvillage.com/And of course, keep us posted on what you're working on! Who knows...get good enough and you'll have no shortage of commissions for said work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2009 22:06:39 GMT
Yar! This is more or less exactly what I'm looking for. It talks about what type of leather is used and different ways to apply it to the scabbard! And even more exciting then that is that this will supply me with new reading material! Woot! Thanks Ebon! And as far as trying belts or all that jazz. I've looked thru the belts and everything I find is to stiff of leather. But after looking at that picture again, perhaps a leather purse strap would suit me well. And saddly I don't have any tanneries, leather workers or hell, even a fabric shop around where I live. I'm sure I could drive an hour and get to one, but thats a little out of the way. or you could just buy a sword frog (that's what they are called) and a ring belt from about every sword shop out there
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 2:01:14 GMT
Pfft, who would want to do a silly thing like buy something when you have the inspiration to make it!
Besides, I hate wearing things around my waist.
And it never ceases to amaze me the vast amounts of hidden knowledge and help this forum has been providing me over the past few weeks. Thanks for the pointer to that site Ebon. I think it was the 2nd link down took me to a place where I could order my own dimensions of leather AND tell them what it will be for so they can help me decide the best type of leather to use!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 19:54:19 GMT
Yea, they're pretty reliable when it comes to wholesale leather. Like I said, time and inclination and I'd probably be elbow deep in that stuff. Little things like work, kids goin to college and whatnot always want to get in the way of such lofty pursuits.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 21:18:24 GMT
I find sometimes plain single piece leather dog collars can be fitted with the loose end looped and either riveted or if your lazy punch two holes and lace with some leather twine. If you can rough it up abit and kinda disguise the fact their dog collars it can work ....... just dont get the ones with little studs on them
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