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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 22:20:36 GMT
Hi Everyone. Just a question for our more learned and experienced members out there. Do you think we could make a list of swords around the $300 mark, that have got true Hamons? (Not acid etched or brushed on, etc!) For example the only one I know of, so far, Is the Cheness Kaze Katana. If you know of any, PLEASE let me know in your Replies. I'm sure this would be a great help for many members, when choosing a sword to buy. Cheers guys, looking forward to your replys...
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Post by sicheah on Aug 25, 2009 22:28:58 GMT
I could be wrong, but on top of my mind: All Hanwei katana except for the Raptor Series (Not sure on Hanwei Zatoichi) Hanwei have real hamon but are acid etch Kris Cutlery Japanese Katana (very faint hamon on 5160 Katana) and Cheness Kaze Would like to add Musashi Takeo 800 series which is water quenched if I am not mistaken. Edit: Hanwei hamon are acid etch but true hamon nevertheless. Might also want to consider Kensei but they are slightly pricier (around $400-$500).
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Post by Eaglehawk on Aug 25, 2009 23:23:04 GMT
Actually there are quite a few. The SBG custom katana and the Deshi from Roninswords comes to mind. Oniyuri has one for sale right now on the for sale board.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 0:47:29 GMT
How about the ryumons? Particularly the Hand Painted Bamboo or Dragon Katanas? Has anyone seen what the hamon is like on them??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 0:51:55 GMT
Dynasty forge bushi, at a slightly higher price. No acid etching. Even some the Musashi under $100 but they may etch, not sure.
Hanwei acid etches, so they are out even though they are real.
The real key here is proper polish, something that raises the cost substantially.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 2:23:36 GMT
It might be easier to just differentiate the TH blades from the DH blades at approximately the $300 mark. Off the top of my head I can think of the Hanwei Raptor series, the Cheness TH lines, DF Musha class. I'm sure there are more, but those are just the ones that come to mind. The Ryumon should be DH, though I haven't handled one. There is a review I believe of the Ryumon Dragon somewhere around here. From being around here a while, though, I would say that general consensus is that you can do a lot better than Ryumon at the $300 mark in terms of consistent quality. Wiwi is selling a Hanwei Shinto blade in shirasaya for $220 on specials of the week. That thing should kick the Ryumon's ass.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 3:35:55 GMT
If you polished out a Hanwei would the hamon show properly ? has anyone ever done that ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 4:16:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 4:59:57 GMT
Hanwei do polish out pretty nicely.
SwordNArmory.com has a bunch. Getting to cut with them on Fridays makes it really easy to see the blades. ^_^
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 6:18:50 GMT
If you polished out a Hanwei would the hamon show properly ? has anyone ever done that ? Proper polishing is not a do-it-yourself project. The closest you would get is a hybrid polish using sandpapers and proper technique. It takes a lot of time and some practice, but it is not brain surgery. These can look quite nice when done correctly, following instructions and some practice before you do your project. Etching can be done to enhance the hamon. A proper acid etch is not ugly, just most production blades are over pronounced. Everyone wants a hamon, so they make it scream. The art of traditionally bringing out a hamon is something requiring years of training and the proper stones. Even if you did elevate the blade to such a fine polish level, and I don't mean mirror finish in any way, you would ruin it if you cut with it. They are called "art polish" for a reason. A good traditional Japanese polish can run upwards of $3000. A good high grade martial arts grade polish will bring out the activity of the steel. Mostly only trained eyes would see a real difference. But even these run around $800 so the blade value should justify the expense. Save it for a custom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 12:50:46 GMT
I have seen the hamon on two Hanwei swords where a metal polish, autosol I think, was used to remove the acid etch. I took about half an hour of work but the result was really nice.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 13:24:56 GMT
From chinese Ebaysellers: Top: TS168Trading $250 sword Tckruan $150 sword Huawei $140 sword
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 13:33:28 GMT
wow ichiban thoes are real nice and screamin deals!i guess i should check ebay more often.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 14:17:57 GMT
Of course, have a care when dealing on or with eBay- but yes, lots of good deals to be had. I usually take my hamon rye. lol
Sorry, couldn't help it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 7:32:46 GMT
Wow ichiban, that Tckruan blade has a stunning hamon, have you reviewed that one?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2009 17:27:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2009 23:58:03 GMT
From Musashi Swords the Bamboo Warrior katanas and the Best Miyamoto, both are 80$, DH, and are known to be great swords. Probably the best swords you could get for that price.
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