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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 20:35:31 GMT
Okay, I think that my entire love for medieval life just disappeared. LOL Then you didn't love it in the first place. I was merely joking. I am willing to accept my filthy ancestors for what they were.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 22:42:14 GMT
not recycled, just rebreathed. They had to surface to change the air in the boat. And they still hot rack on US subs. Even worse. I thought they had filters and something to change the CO2 to O2, but I am not surprised that they didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2009 23:14:14 GMT
They had to surface every 12 hours or so to air out the boat even with the CO2 scrubbers. It wasn't until the nuke boats were developed that a sub could stay submerged for more than about a day. Even the boomers are so tight that some of the crew have to share bunks. In sailing ship days everyone at least had their own hammock. And 18inches of space to hang it in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 0:00:50 GMT
I never thought about this topic before. I read somewhere the in medieval times they thought baths were not good, maybe even unhealthy. That you got one when you were born and one when you died. Um..... I don't want to be a knight anymore. Rob Two baths? Not such a big deal. Back then that would have only been 30-35 years between them...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 0:56:17 GMT
Or less, depending on if you were a fighter or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 1:32:14 GMT
Well not all medieval cultures feared water. Asian cultures like the Chinese and Japanese as well as a multitude of others bathed regularly.
Maybe Jonathan you should consider being a samurai instead of a knight? lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 1:42:30 GMT
Well not all medieval cultures feared water. Asian cultures like the Chinese and Japanese as well as a multitude of others bathed regularly. Maybe Jonathan you should consider being a samurai instead of a knight? lol No, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 1:56:16 GMT
The Byzantine's were very clean people too. They considered themselves Romans right up until 1452 and maintained the Roman custom of bathing. It is recorded that around 1000 ad a Byzantine Princess was married to a Holy Roman Emperor and she irritated her servants very much with insistence of daily baths. So Johnathon, you can be a Cataphract
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 2:01:32 GMT
The Byzantine's were pretty cool guys, so I suppose I could settle with one those if I had to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2009 3:12:18 GMT
My SCA persona is a Jurchen from the Jin Empire. That's the part of China now called "Manchurian China and the same people the Manchu tribe, the people who birthed the last Chinese dynasty, the Qing.
In persona, I have toilet paper (actual paper), a toothbrush and toothpaste, and take regular baths (even if it means I have to strip down in the rain) with soap (lye soap, of course, but it's still soap). Shampoo is still lacking, but at least I have soap. Perfumed soap even, if I want to mix in some mint or rose petals or something.
This did not factor into my choice of persona, but it is a nice bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2009 19:33:23 GMT
I have thought about this alot over the last couple of years, and still have yet to figure out a way to be able to use the bathroom by myself without getting out of my armor. tis' quite the annoying thing, you see, running, killing, hacking zombies and then....yea, you get it. ive had some pretty crazy ideas as to how to accomplish using the john while still in armor......i have at least possibly figured out a way to take a leak......im not sure if anyone wants to hear it....sooooo......until i get some replies to this i shall say no more on the matter except....this is a sempriniesque part of wearing armor...LOL no pun intended....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 2:14:11 GMT
To answer our Scotsman, easiest, tho very far from most pleasant way is a catheter ( a rubber hose inserted to drain the bladder) and catch bag. Or you could buy a box of depends to wear under your armor.
HTH, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 13:42:16 GMT
Technical divers have been useing -external- male catheters for years and years. No insertion, no infection risks. Its basically a condom you roll on with some tape/glue inside that you hook up to a tube. Very simple to use. I probably wouldn't go with a leg bag, just stick on a short tube and tuck it in somewhere to pull out whenever I needed to use it. About a year ago someone developed an external catheter for women. It involves lots of shaving and glue... but some of my friends swear by them now. To answer our Scotsman, easiest, tho very far from most pleasant way is a catheter ( a rubber hose inserted to drain the bladder) and catch bag. Or you could buy a box of depends to wear under your armor. HTH, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 15:00:09 GMT
jimc, thank you for your post, that really is an easy answer to this problem. For both sexes.
YIS, K
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 15:51:22 GMT
The Byzantine's were pretty cool guys, so I suppose I could settle with one those if I had to. I liked your previous answer Jonathan...a resounding no thank you on the 'you should be a Samurai'. LOL I could get with the Byzantines...they had a lot of advancements that were lost when that empire fell...most notably, the ones that dealt with hygiene. The stench must've been considerable back then...ah, to shite in one's armor... BLEH. lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 18:18:44 GMT
Haha, I would simply rather be a smelly knight than a silly samurai.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2009 19:42:15 GMT
LMAOOOOO
A man after my own heart! But I stop short of belittling our Eastern brethren...they were, after all, the fiercest of fighters for their part of the world and era they were prevalent in.
Could they beat a knight? I'm of the mind that they could not, but you know as well as I do, that's an argument that could go for days...Deadliest Warrior tv show notwithstanding. LOL
Cataphractoi for the win, though! I remember when I first read about them when I was doing some research on Roman tactics...some of what they'd written were about these iron horsemen with horses in matching accoutrement; how their charge was so powerful it could skewer two legionnaires in a single pass...they planned for that by recruiting many more soldiers to counter them. Beast.
I'll tell you what else...when you sweat in steel, it stays...until you clean your armor. I'd imagine the stench would linger too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2009 3:44:57 GMT
I have respect for anyone who has been in combat, regardless of who they are. I know that I would cowar on the spot and probably die before even attempting to attack. I simply have more respect for some than others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 5:19:11 GMT
Apparently most Norseman during the Viking age bathed once a week (I believe it was saturday) but don't quote me on it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 9:20:34 GMT
Apparently most Norseman during the Viking age bathed once a week (I believe it was saturday) but don't quote me on it. You're right. Vikings even had extra bathing houses. Women and men bathed seperatly.
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