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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 2:37:25 GMT
Having examined multiple swords from Jin-Shi I can state that compared to most modern Chinese Swords, Garrett's come closest to matching the antiques in terms of balance, handling AND vibrational qualities when the blade parries another. The hardness of his blades are right in line with historical blades as well.
The fact his forge smaller than some of the others as well as his willingness to custom design a sword for you puts him at the top of the list of modern Chinese Sword Makers in my opinion.
One thing I will say is that NO production modern sword maker can make a grip and scabbard fit as nicely as one done by Philip Tom!!!! My choice for the best jian would be blade and fittings by Garrett, sent over to Philip Tom for mounting and scabbard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2010 2:40:03 GMT
Garrett also has access to a private collection of Antique jian and sabers to measure, weigh and examine as well. I always wonder how many of the forges in China have actually examined real antique swords.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 17:33:43 GMT
Garrett also has access to a private collection of Antique jian and sabers to measure, weigh and examine as well. I always wonder how many of the forges in China have actually examined real antique swords. You'd think there would be a large supply of them in Chinese museums and whatnot considering the vast majority of antique chinese weapons would be in, well, China.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2010 11:27:37 GMT
I can second the custom jian from Zheng Wu. I have one through them. They outsourced the design for the fittings to Qing Zhong, while the blade was made at Zheng Wu. I can say though that I am very happy with the result. And at the time I commissioned it, a couple of years ago, $5000 would get you it... I had Scott Rodell have a quick play with it while he was over here for the Sword Festival and his comments about its balance (which I trust more than my own, to me it feels perfect) were positive and that I should take it cutting. My only problem with taking it cutting is a) I'm not confident in my own cutting abilities yet to risk a custom blade with poor technique. If you want to have a look at the workmanship: www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96108&highlight=Custom+Jian
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2010 3:19:18 GMT
ZhengWu has consistency problems. There's posts about this on the GRTC forum.
Check to see if it has Clamshell geometry, most production swords these days don't.
After the knowledge gleaned from parrying experiments I wouldn't buy a $5000 custom sword, A couple of years ago I did.....
Jin Shi swords now come with historical clamshell profiles just like the antiques. The balance, hardness, and toughness of the blades outperforms other production swords that cost twice as much.
Best part about Jin Shi, if you bang up the blade, it costs LESS to get a new one than to get a proper polish on it done!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 17:05:24 GMT
Hi, If you're looking for a sword to practice forms with (no cutting), I've enjoyed having this sword for a couple of years. Nicely made, cheap, and durable. The balance is great (right at the guard). It's very light as well. I've tried a number of different tai chi sword, and I prefer this one for forms. kungfudirect.com/proddetail.asp?prod=020100105Thanks, jason
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Post by sicheah on Jun 30, 2010 17:55:33 GMT
A properly balanced jian has a point of balance about 5 inches from the guard for a 28-30 inch blade jian. On the other hand a jian that balances similar to an antique might not handle as well as the one that balance right at the guard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2010 21:25:50 GMT
I suggest you buy two swords - spend $3000 ordering an antique from Seven Stars Trading Co and having Philip Tom restore it. Then see what you can get for cutting, etc from Zheng Wu, or go for the Royal Peony Gold sanmei from Huanuo. Since that comes in a little over $1000 unless you order it through Seven Stars (or me if you're in Oz), you may want to get a knock about cutter as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2010 23:34:22 GMT
Welcome making it here Mrs. Heenan (for the other folks here: Mrs. Heenan is the owner of Chinese Swords-Guide.com and probably the foremost teacher of Chinese swordsmanship in Australia.)
The going opinion here is Jin-Shi swords are the way to go since Garrett Chan has worked closely with Phillip Tom and studied antiques in a high amount of detail, and Jin-Shi tends to come the closest to the sub-$300 US dollar price range that is the focus of the SBG forums.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 6:54:44 GMT
I'm new to the forum, and now beginning to collect Han Dynasty styled swords. Maybe I'm wrong but it appears that Garrett's swords are made by the Jkoo Sword factory in Longquan. I certainly hope they're good at the craft, since they're making a short Han jian for me. I bought a Chris Zheng "Emperor Han" limited edition, anticipating a typical folded steel look. They claimed it was actually sandwiched steel and iron. When it came, the blade looked just like a tool-steel jobby-- absolutely no pattern visable. Nice polish job, though. I was shocked and disappointed. Most companies are selling folded steel blades with crappy pot metal (zink alloy) fittings. I want brass or bronze, lost wax preferred. Another company, GENS, is the one producing the low-cost Han at Kultofathena. I got one, and its gorgeous, well-crafted, but has a silly "registered" "R" etched into the blade. Collectors don't want registered trademarks, at least this one doesn't. As far as I know, other than Paul Chen these companies are the best Chinese mfg, considering that Ryansword is an assembler of inferior parts. I think if the Chinese makers could get their act together, they'd find a decent serious collector market. But until they do, the whole thing appears to be everyman's gamble.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 9:39:22 GMT
@ lindaheenan we say welcome to our wonderful place of sword happiness... we are always glad to welcome a new mate... cheers. hope all is well @ your home site.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 4:27:02 GMT
@ lindaheenan we say welcome to our wonderful place of sword happiness... we are always glad to welcome a new mate... cheers. hope all is well @ your home site. Sirtre, Thanks for the welcome! I'm probably an odd duck in the forum. I collect Han Dynasty swords, not twangy tai-chi versions. Also, I collect for "condition," which rules out whacking at mats, coke bottles, etc, where the blade can get dinged, and thus detracting from value. I guess my swords are just to examine and display, like antique firearms.
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