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Post by newblade on Aug 21, 2009 14:11:27 GMT
Can someone tell me how to remove the wooden handle on my sword? It has a slight crack in it, and I want to see if I can repair or replace it.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2009 14:42:35 GMT
Hi, there. I don't know for sure, bit I think all generation 2 swords are peened...if this is the case with your gladius, you'll have to either try to push some glue into the crack and clamp or bind it on the sword or tear off the old handle and fashion a new 2-piece handle that you can glue on. Hope this helps and good luck .
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Post by newblade on Aug 21, 2009 14:57:13 GMT
Interesting. I hadn't considered it was peened into place.
It has a cap nut that is entirely smooth. The cap nut makes me think it was screwed on, but the smooth surface makes me think it was peened into the wooden pommel. So ... I don't know which way it was originally assembled.
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 21, 2009 14:59:24 GMT
Its peened, as nicko suggested... so removing it is somewhat tricky if you don't have the tools and experince.
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Post by newblade on Aug 21, 2009 15:11:12 GMT
Thanks, guys, you've saved me A LOT of aggravation.
The crack isn't that big, so going the glue route should fix things.
Thanks again.
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 21, 2009 15:22:43 GMT
Thanks, guys, you've saved me A LOT of aggravation. The crack isn't that big, so going the glue route should fix things. Thanks again. Good luck... how did you crack the grip, BTW?
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Post by newblade on Aug 21, 2009 18:55:39 GMT
Actually, it arrived that way.
After looking at it more intently, the crack seems to be mostly cosmetic. I say "mostly" because sometimes a cosmetic issue can, over time, become a real issue.
This crack looks like something I can repair and prevent it from becoming a problem.
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Post by newblade on Aug 22, 2009 0:33:51 GMT
By the way, does anyone have any suggestions for a good glue? The handle appears to be some sort of bamboo, and the crack is only 2 mm deep. I think what I need is something that will keep the crack from getting worse.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by YlliwCir on Aug 22, 2009 0:43:48 GMT
I have one of those too. I don't know if it's peened or not, but I don't think it's meant to be disassembled easily. I'd go with some wood filler myself. Push it into the crack and let it dry, sand it off, put a finish on it, wallah. I've done that to other cracked grips.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2009 3:01:50 GMT
I have the same problem. The grip cracked soon after the sword arrived. From what I hear, that's a very common thing with Gen2 gladii (probably other, similiar swords too, I'm sure). I couldn't get the handle apart so I'll try the wood filler. Good idea!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 16:52:42 GMT
By the way, does anyone have any suggestions for a good glue? The handle appears to be some sort of bamboo, and the crack is only 2 mm deep. I think what I need is something that will keep the crack from getting worse. Thanks in advance. Have you considered the expanding type like Gorilla glue? Use a syringe to get it in deep and let dry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 18:05:48 GMT
I have a old Gen 2 dagger with a wooden handle this happened too. I just left the crack in mine and did not tinker with it. The problem is the wood. When wood that is not kiln-dried and stabilized is used for a grip, the lack of moisture causes the wood to split eventually over time. It's called 'checking' and it will happen to wood that is harvested from normally damp/tropical climates more than with native American hardwoods.
If eventually you do replace the grip, I would recommend getting some cow bone (from the pet store) and making the grip from that, then terminating with a nice hardwood pommel. The process is time consuming, but you can remake a grip and repeen it with much difficult using household tools and inexpensive items from the hardware store.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 20:20:07 GMT
Hey Newblade, The link below is to a tread on myarmory.com were a guy is modifying his Gen 2 gladius. It is a pompeii but I believe that, though they may be slightly different in appearance, the pompeii and the maintz are assembled the same way. The tang is treaded on to the pommel and then epoxied, making disassembly impossible without destroying the pommel. So, as already stated, your only option will probably be to try to glue the crack shut...or replace the whole pommel www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=17274&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
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Post by YlliwCir on Oct 29, 2009 20:49:35 GMT
Thanks for the link, Andrew, that is about how I expected the Gen2 gladii hilts were assembled. It's always good to know what's under the hood. A karma for the info.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 21:21:01 GMT
No problem Rick I was thinking of modifying my Gen 2 glad for a while but for the longest time I couldn't find any pics of how it's actually put together. Now I know why ;D I think it would be more work than it's worth Thanks for the karma.
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Post by newblade on Nov 7, 2009 23:17:37 GMT
Have you considered the expanding type like Gorilla glue? Use a syringe to get it in deep and let dry. I meant to update this thread a long time ago. I used the Gorilla glue. Not only did it expand and fill the crack, but it dried to almost identical color as the wood. The color thing is now a moot point since I have overwrapped the handle to make it fit my hand better. But for anyone who has the same cracking problem and wants something that matches the wood, the Gorilla glue is a good choice.
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