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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 17:05:22 GMT
Yeah. I know. I'm not supposed to chop down trees.
But my DSA Medieval Knight did so well against my old truck tires, I figured I'd push it further to see if anything loosened. A mesquite branch about 2 inches in diameter was calling out to me, and so I chopped at it full strength ten or so times. No damage to the blade's edge, but the cross guard loosened a little.
Took a single jack to the peen, but didn't get it tight enough. Tried my framing hammer with the gnurled face. Didn't tighten enough either.
Looking at the guard, I think I'm seeing evidence that epoxy was holding the guard to the tang.
Anyway, any suggestions on tightening this sword up a bit? Should I just keep working at the peen? I absolutely love this sword, and I'll inject JB Weld in the guard if I have to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 17:40:59 GMT
Well, you could try to wrap some very sturdy rope between the guard and the grip. That, together with some epoxy in the gap, should solve the problem. But I'm not sure if it would keep the guard from loosing up again when chopping down wood. About welding, well you can, but you need to take down the grip to get acces to the guard. The problem with welding is that you will likely mess up the temper of the blade near the guard. To minimalize this I would wrap the blade in wet clothes before you start welding. Just try to keep the blade as cool as you can.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 17:47:54 GMT
JB Weld is epoxy, so it won't affect the blade's temper.
Interesting idea about using a filler between the guard and grip. I'll think about that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 17:49:59 GMT
I thought the medieval knight was a threaded assembly :S ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 17:51:47 GMT
Alright, I didn't know that. I just read 'weld' and that was it.
Hairu, the new versions have a peened assembly, along with other DSA swords like the Gothic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 18:18:20 GMT
thats interesting and kind of exciting I really want the gothic so sexy
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Post by hotspur on Aug 12, 2009 19:03:25 GMT
bjorn.foxtail.nu/bonk_eng.htmInvest or acquire something more than just a waffle maker hammerhead. I know my Estwing still makes imprints on things but I have other bonkers. Take a look as to whether Bjorn's pictorial might help a bit. I now I tend to do my Del Tin freehand, just holding the sword with one hand and light but a few bonks in quadrants about the peen (sorta makes it pyramidal). If the peen has been countersunk in the pommel, this can make things a bit tougher but using the wood block with a hole while driving againgst a clamped sword should/could make it happen more easily. Aternatively, disregard 'poxies when fixing hilts by driving metal wedges in there. This is also easier done with the hilt apart but if there is a gap between the cross and blade, small wedges can get stuffed up in there. I use a Canadian dime on one of them ;D Others will mention winding fish line between the grip or ferrule and the cross. I use dental floss and wood or plastic wedges on some of my antiques, just to remove rattling while offering others to gently fondle. I am quite a bit more aggresive on some of my own. Consider also that playing axe with any sword is kind of over-reving the better uses. I know SBG loves to promote the term of "beater" and that many will emulate extreme uses but if you are wondering why swords loosen and break, it is the extreme uses that will usually cause the damage. Many swords will settle between the cross and blade shoulders becoming more one with each other. True for any compression type hilt, really. Cheers Hotspur; not quite Sir Bonks A Lot but easily enough done
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 19:10:13 GMT
Here you can see wooden wedges I use to tighten the guard if only the guard is loose, not pommel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 19:48:37 GMT
Thats a Tinker Viking, right? Did the guard become loose or was that just to explain your point?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 19:50:26 GMT
thats interesting and kind of exciting I really want the gothic so sexy The Gothic is a nice sword. I had the pleasure to handle one and I really liked it. It's heavy but still relatively fast. No match for my Tinker Longsword though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 20:41:18 GMT
Thats a Tinker Viking, right? Did the guard become loose or was that just to explain your point? MY crossguard loosened only after taking the leather off the grip, the outer seam kinda creating a ferrule inside, bit of cotton twine with superglue coating and good as new
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 21:32:07 GMT
Thats a Tinker Viking, right? Did the guard become loose or was that just to explain your point? Yes, it is a Tinker Viking. It became loose just after some dry handling, I was a bit dissapointed because of that but I don't think of this as a great problem...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 23:01:34 GMT
Yes, it is a Tinker Viking. It became loose just after some dry handling, I was a bit dissapointed because of that but I don't think of this as a great problem... That sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 23:40:11 GMT
Well, Hanwei Tinker are great swords but they are still sub 300, right? So you must expect that not everything is gonna be great. (Price depends on where you buy them actually. Here in Croatia I paid mine about $400 )
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Post by Brendan Olszowy on Aug 13, 2009 0:23:17 GMT
Here' my solution: /index.cgi?board=fable&action=display&thread=10616
The thing is that because the grip is likely to be glued in place, further peening is likely to either break that glue, or the wood of the grip. Something would have to give before it could add pressure to the guard. And you could end up with more dramas.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 1:01:52 GMT
If there was epoxy on the guard area then that leads me to believe there is epoxy hodling the grip on, in which case all the peening you want to do on the pommel will not tighten the guard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 18:07:04 GMT
Thanks, everyone.
I think I'll try wedging some beer can in there and see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2009 0:22:51 GMT
Hey, beer cans make great shims. I use them in bicycle repair all the time. ;D
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