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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 0:48:07 GMT
Hey all, I'm doing a re-grip on my Hanwei Tinker Viking and thought I'd show you whats under the hood. Leather Off Rattle Rattle, yeah the sandwich grip was done BEFORE the pommel was put on and peened (I think), either way there was grip leather between crossguard and pommel which caused the crossguard to loosen off, no big deal here I wrapped some bead twine in the gap and a little super glue over it WHO KNEW a problem was even there. Good as new. Man couldnt budge the steel fittings so used a scalpel and cut the leather off .............. uurrrggghhh fibreglass scabbard, does the job but it looks like I'm gonna need to make my own wooden one which should be a good project looking forward to it. Hacksaw'ed off the ends of the little plugs that hold on the fittings and then levered the crap outta the chape but it did come off, scabbard damaged in process (dont care). Same went for throat and mid fitting. So the grip I re-did was courteousy of yeoldgaffers.com thanks Gaff !!! seen as thought the grip leather wouldnt re-fit I took some from the scabbard outer, will post results later, its a trial run, next I'll get some thin leather and dye it a nice dark brown, or maybe oxblood havent decided........ opinions
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 13:28:46 GMT
Nice! Thanks for showing the 'inner life' of the Tinker Hanwei swords. Good to know that stuff. Now post some pictures of the new grip, please!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 17:04:19 GMT
Ahhh...fiberglass. It holds the sword well? Either way...I can't wait to see what you do with what you've got there. Guess you'll be using Gaff's site for the scabbard too?
Wish I were that talented; I'm gonna pay Odingaard to do it. lol
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Post by genocideseth on Aug 13, 2009 20:56:11 GMT
Well it is a learning process Ebon. Even Odingaard was only born knowing how to breathe, eat and poop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 2:34:47 GMT
Well it is a learning process Ebon. Even Odingaard was only born knowing how to breathe, eat and poop. He he thats a fact, best quote I've heard in a while Seth. Yeah re-did the trial grip will post tonight, then once I get my leather supplies (only only leather store in whole capital city and its only open on Wednesdays ...... you yanks have all the luck) I'll do that and post naturally. Yeah ol' Gaff has been an invaluable contribution to the community. And best part is its simplified by him .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 10:55:02 GMT
Practice Grip from piece of scabbard leather (which hanwei would get in bulk no doubt). I made some gold and copper twisted wire, cut out the boring bit of galvanised steel coil around the upperguard/pommel and have done a practice super gluing of it in the channel and two other pieces around the upper channels. When I buy a bloody Dremel I'll cut deeper channels to recess the wire neater and better and likely use perm epoxy to weld it in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 23:33:56 GMT
I love that sword. I am having a very hard time deciding if I want it or the norman. I think that a brown leather grip and scabbard would look nice and traditional. Did you take the wooden grip off, or just the leather?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 6:52:31 GMT
Just the leather Johnno, with a bit of leather off the scabbard, its very basic grade leather but far more supple then windlass stuff. I intend to remake it in a dark brown when I actually get to the leather shop, its 40 mins drive and only open 1 day a week so logistically its hard to get to, I should take like a hundred bucks there and buy heaps of leather, dyes, glues, tools etc. I'll get the norman next after the VA custom oxblood LS
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 11:07:47 GMT
That sounds like a good idea to me. I wish that I had enough money for 3 swords. If I did, my problems would be solved.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 0:13:15 GMT
Well you got your 304S now hey johnno ........ also a note on the leather on the tinker line I think its chrome tanned because no amount of warm water soaking would have the water absorb into the leather .......... which is a shame they cant get some vegtable tanned leather and dye but hey cheaper I suppose, never know maybe they buy offcuts from another manufacturer in china
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 2:25:22 GMT
When are you going to finish your project?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 2:48:38 GMT
Nice improvements! It looks far more handmade/authentic now imo, less machined. Good job!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 4:36:20 GMT
Bah hardly, it was just a test re-wrap, and I learnt two things from just that 1) You will always know chrome tanned with a soaking cause it wont shift or be tooled (even with a fingernail 2)I used like a thick cotton bead thread to wrap this which in my mind is too thin a wrap cord. Something more bold would likely be better and likely come out more uniform. So yeah little lessons learnt, I'll be at this project forever and a day but hopefully one day in the next 7 months I'll have the grip perfect and a perfect scabbard for it too
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2009 6:24:49 GMT
looks way better with the wire twists
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Post by ShooterMike on Sept 23, 2009 19:54:14 GMT
The copper wire certainly adds a bit of class. One thought would be to hammer the twisted wire into the pommel a bit when you are ready to make it permanent. That seems to be common for period pieces, and IMO makes the piece look more "permanent" in a way. This looks to be an exciting project. Can hardly wait to see it finished.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2009 3:12:12 GMT
The wire is actually twisted copper with a gold plated copper to give a two tone effect which I think would of been historically plausible ....... I actually hammered the wire into the glued channels but the channels are two narrow to take the gauge wire I got ......... I tried using a slender 3 sided file to try and widen the channel but its surprisingly tough hilt metal so gave up ........ when I get a dremel I'll be able to widen the channels and a simple hammer should suffice.
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