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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 20:51:02 GMT
Does anyone know where I can get a bronze/brass Corinthian Helm that is atleast 16 ga.. All I can find is 18 ga..I know Manning Imperial has some nice ones but $2,200 is out of my price range. If you know someone who has a used one that they want to sell,that would be ok,too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 15:19:26 GMT
Helmets should be made to order. The armorer will ask you for some measurements and make the right size helmet for you. Expect a huge Pensic backlog. Most custom order will not be started till late August. On the cheap end this should come close at about $250 for mild steel, $350 for stainless. Prices are not listed but I have an idea of their price structure. Email for a quote. Ascroft does not do custom work. You get what you see in the photo. www.ashcraftbaker.com/Olympian%20Barbute.htmIron Monger makes prettier stuff. About $350 for Mild steel. He does custom work, so you can send him a photo link. www.ironmongerarmory.com/index.php?p=helmsMaster Ket makes awesome helms at reasonable prices too. He is often 6 to 8 months backordered. He is very well studied in historical armor and often takes high end commissions upwards of 12K. He made my helmet for $475. In total I dropped about 2K on him last summer. He lives close to me I drove to his shop. roughfromthehammer.com/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 15:37:23 GMT
Bill's right; don't bother buying it if it wasn't made for you- I've bought enough off the internet to tell you that you'll only look ridiculous in one of those, unless your head is just the right size, you know?
Funny thing- I'd been looking at that Ashcraft helm for a long time but for the exact same reason I just spoke on is why I did NOT buy it.
That may change...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 15:50:18 GMT
Ascroft does not do custom work in the sense of modifications, but the Helmets are made to order based on your head size. They will ask for the circumference going around the head horizontally at the brow and the circumference going around the vertically under the chin. If they don't ask for these measures it is because they are off their game. Tell them the measures on your own initiative and verify that you can return the helmet if it does not fit. Get all this in an email so you can reference back to it. Nickb, when you pad the helmet the top of it should be right at your brow. With a chin strap you nose should not touch the front plate when pressed, less it break. Be sure the helmet does not touch your collar bone on the bottom. Ebon Paladin, I have toyed a few times with getting their stainless steel fluted helm. They wanted $450, which is a little pricey for a back up helm. www.ashcraftbaker.com/stainless%20steel%20helms.htm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 16:38:13 GMT
Wow, that fluted one is real, real nice...looks to be a better grade of workmanship too; I've always like their Staunton helm but I'm really diggin the last one, the etched Devil Dogs...nice Viking style motif with a slick looking faceguard.
I should've clarified in my previous post about sizing issues- naturally they're not going to custom-make a helm at that price but the fact that they have differing sizes should tell the buyer something, as opposed to the one-size-fits-all crap we see all the time; one of which I just picked up for display.
It'll get sold...I want that first Ashcraft one I saw, the Olympian Barbute.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 16:51:28 GMT
I'm sorry, I should have said that I was looking for a Historical accurate helm that's why I wanted bronze/brass. I'm not looking for a fighting helm but thanks for the information.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 18:46:19 GMT
Well then, how much are you willing to spend? Getting a true-to-historical accuracy helm, in bronze no less, is going to cost you- simply because there aren't many who still do that anymore. You can try here: www.realmcollections.com/p954/greek-corinthian-helmet.htmlI saw one for less than $200; whatever you do, don't be in a hurry, don't get frantic...be patient and you'll find that quality helm eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2009 23:58:07 GMT
There are plenty who do that, Ebon. There just aren't more than you can count on one hand who do it for so little. Most of them have graduated to using period techniques in addition to period materials and styles. That jumps the price Big Time. Find someone who does spun still and you can get period style in a period metal for $300 or less...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 0:35:50 GMT
I think if you got a bronze helm from manning it would be a total stunner, hell it would be an heirloom really. You should spen some time connecting with yourself. Find the culture or particular thing that speaks to you, I myself love Viking stuff which is why hopefully when I get the dosh spare I will get them to make me a GJERMUNDBU helm which I love as a quintessential look of the viking around 800-1000AD. www.manningimperial.com/item.php?item_id=228&g_id=3&c_id=28Dont rush into big spendings though, tastes mature and refine and its good to sample a little of this and that cheap, the regret comes later when you do want that thing worth a grand you go "AAAWW man I could of saved all those 100 dollar swords for this one". But hey nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 5:50:58 GMT
Talk to Mercenary's Tailor for historical expertise. There prices are reasonable from what I see. www.merctailor.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=25&osCsid=9bf0v79cmgsaqrtdls38jidea5They do a lot of medieval historical stuff. I am sure for the right price they can go back a few centuries. The Standard Corinthian helm is a pretty simple basic design and it is similar to a T face Barbout helm, so I am sure they can manage it. 16 gage is not historical infantry helms. 18 gage is probably on the thick side too. Greek armies walked everywhere and had a lot of armor on their bodies. The armor had to be thin so they could go the distance. The shield was the main defense. Make sure you tell them exactly what materials you want used how strictly historical. I have heard of cases of cutting corners. Particularly in straps, buckles and rivets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 7:04:07 GMT
OOOoooooooooo Merc Tailor sure can do a spagenhelm, really like the look of those, but by the time I convert currency and ship over to oz its probably best just to get it done by manning .......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 19:30:04 GMT
Merc Tailor does do some good work at decent prices. In fact, I'm gonna order up some more stuff because what I've gotten already doesn't really suit me like I thought it would- but it sure fits well. He'll make it to fit YOU.
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