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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 3:42:06 GMT
I think we are forgetting that most "jungle brush" or what have you consists of thin, green twigs and vines, and high grasses. A knife like this would surely be sufficient to clear these "obstacles" (as woud a swipe of any hand) but I would never attempt to chop a branch with any knife. Either way, even a "soft" part of a "small" tree is a poor choice of ABUSE for a knife, even of this size. I think we may be missing something here. If a swipe of the hand was sufficient in the bush, People would just use their hands instead of bush knives and machetes. Also, there are plenty of knives that are perfectly suited to chopping branches or even small trees. Some knives are > than others in this respect. Some knives snack on tree branches.
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Post by genocideseth on Jul 8, 2009 7:00:43 GMT
I will add one thing... It says well tempered.... It is NOT well tempered... That is FALSE advertising, regardless of price.
This sempriniesque store in my town was selling chocolate milk for 1$ once. I bought two in glee. Guzzled one and just then found out they were sour. Although only 2$ and I should have known better, that, IMO is fruad. Selling poop shaped like a knife for 1$ saying it is well tempered high carbon steel is false advertising. As is saying Carbon steel is well tempered, when it is if fact not, also false advertising.
If a company buys a bunch of crap, they should toss it. Or list it as display.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 8, 2009 7:35:06 GMT
Well, herbertwest, looking at the sheer size of that monstrosity you've posted and contrasting it to the number of whacks apparently given to that poor tree I'd have to say that "knife" is not a very good choice for...jungle use or whatever.
Would YOU touch a random jungle vine? I wouldn't, might actually be a snake. Best to hit it with a big, sharp thing first.
(god what a horrible thing that is)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 11:01:11 GMT
Well, herbertwest, looking at the sheer size of that monstrosity you've posted and contrasting it to the number of whacks apparently given to that poor tree I'd have to say that "knife" is not a very good choice for...jungle use or whatever. It all depends on the circumstances. Its a much better choice than your hand. I guess a chainsaw would be the best choice. That's not always practical. An axe then? Also not always practical. How about a hatchet then? Maybe so, but why pack large camp/bush knife as well as a 3lb hatchet when the knife will do fine on its own as well as accomplish other tasks.? The pictures amount to only a few minutes of work. Would YOU touch a random jungle vine? I wouldn't, might actually be a snake. Best to hit it with a big, sharp thing first. Yeah, I would. I don't really think "people use bush knives and machetes because a vine might be a snake" holds up.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 8, 2009 12:37:38 GMT
Of course it doesn't, it was a joke. Could say the same for your idea of leaving out an axe or hatchet when wandering into the woods.
A machete is what you need for brush, an axe for lumber, and a knife for...well, knifey dtuff...skinning and other small tasks...small knives are good for this; big ones not so much.
Master, let us know if AC gets back to you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 13:16:18 GMT
I will add one thing... It says well tempered.... It is NOT well tempered... That is FALSE advertising, regardless of price. Do you know it for sure? It could be EXTREMELY well tempered. Alas, that means nothing if the hardening process wasn't done right. "Well tempered" is another meaningless term, just like "battle ready", now. I wasn't originally going to bring it up, but since someone DID bring up the Windlass Qama as being an excellent shortsword for the price, I happen to OWN Master's old Qama which I received though trade. Anyone interested in seeing the state I received it in, feel free to PM me. My point: history of serious blade abuse.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 13:48:13 GMT
Just curious Randomnobody do you live in the country or city.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 8, 2009 17:07:17 GMT
Just curious Randomnobody do you live in the country or city. I'm not particularly certain what that has to do with anything but I have lived the majority of my life on the border of the two.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 17:21:07 GMT
No reason to get defensive I just asked a simple question.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 8, 2009 18:33:25 GMT
Hey, no reason to get defensive, I just answered it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 19:54:26 GMT
I will add one thing... It says well tempered.... It is NOT well tempered... That is FALSE advertising, regardless of price. Do you know it for sure? It could be EXTREMELY well tempered. Alas, that means nothing if the hardening process wasn't done right. "Well tempered" is another meaningless term, just like "battle ready", now. I wasn't originally going to bring it up, but since someone DID bring up the Windlass Qama as being an excellent shortsword for the price, I happen to OWN Master's old Qama which I received though trade. Anyone interested in seeing the state I received it in, feel free to PM me. My point: history of serious blade abuse. I told you what condition the blade was in, and supplied you with pictures. Quit sempriniing about it. sempriniEDIT***, sorry, I was out of line when I posted that last comment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 20:03:21 GMT
LOL
So Master's hard on his swords? I think that's the point, no pun intended. Hey, if you buy used, you get what you pay for, you know?
Long as the print's legible and the pics are clear, what more could you ask for?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 23:11:23 GMT
Of course it doesn't, it was a joke. Could say the same for your idea of leaving out an axe or hatchet when wandering into the woods. You want to lug an axe or a hatchet around in the woods??? A machete is what you need for brush, an axe for lumber, and a knife for...well, knifey dtuff...skinning and other small tasks...small knives are good for this; big ones not so much. That's a good idea. You are more than welcome to haul all of that around with you. Was that a joke too? ;D
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 8, 2009 23:48:55 GMT
I can't really see an axe, or especially a hatchet, as anything to "lug" at all. They're really quite small and lightweight, particularly hatchets. I'd be good with carrying a hatchet. And a machete, and a knife. Hell, I carry several knives every day; what's trading two or three for a hatchet and a machete? Some of us live in reality, some of us chop at trees with knives. THAT, is a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 23:54:43 GMT
Not suprising given the price. Perhaps the blade can be salvaged?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 0:07:08 GMT
I can't really see an axe, or especially a hatchet, as anything to "lug" at all. They're really quite small and lightweight, particularly hatchets. I'd be good with carrying a hatchet. And a machete, and a knife. Hell, I carry several knives every day; what's trading two or three for a hatchet and a machete? I'm going to say 3-4 times the weight + whatever space you use up.
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 9, 2009 0:15:35 GMT
Hell of a hatchet you have there, I've seen 'em come in at a pound, under a foot long, and not six inches wide. Beats the tar out of any oversized knife, like the one you showed. Talk about wasted space and weight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 0:17:50 GMT
Hell of a hatchet you have there, I've seen 'em come in at a pound, under a foot long, and not six inches wide. Beats the tar out of any oversized knife, like the one you showed. No, it really doesn't. But then again, I've used both. I can say that.
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Post by genocideseth on Jul 9, 2009 1:04:50 GMT
I will add one thing... It says well tempered.... It is NOT well tempered... That is FALSE advertising, regardless of price. Do you know it for sure? It could be EXTREMELY well tempered. Alas, that means nothing if the hardening process wasn't done right. "Well tempered" is another meaningless term, just like "battle ready", now. I wasn't originally going to bring it up, but since someone DID bring up the Windlass Qama as being an excellent shortsword for the price, I happen to OWN Master's old Qama which I received though trade. Anyone interested in seeing the state I received it in, feel free to PM me. My point: history of serious blade abuse. You make an excellent point actually.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 4:04:22 GMT
In my very limited experience carrying a hatchet is a pain in the ass. I had to keep re-adjusting my pants because it would pull them down and that damn handle.......I always felt like it was in my way. I know of a couple of guys who carry a Gerber hatchet in their trunk. I think thats a fantastic place for it.
Anyway I just carried it because I am a stupid city boy who was looking for an excuse to be all geared up for the great outdoors.
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