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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 18:16:19 GMT
no pun intended towards darksword i was just ending a debate and after cutting single and double mats like they were butter im convinced its not a masahiro blade i even cut the tip of my stand off with no damage to the blade no rattles or looseness of any kind
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 18:20:10 GMT
it beat out my musashi 69.00 blade my t10 dh musha blade and my united highlander 1045 blade also hands down its a little heavy but i thnk its because im not used to one
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 5, 2009 22:14:49 GMT
no pun intended towards darksword i was just ending a debate and after cutting single and double mats like they were butter im convinced its not a masahiro blade i even cut the tip of my stand off with no damage to the blade no rattles or looseness of any kind I'm not yet convinced myself that it is not the same sword as the one offered by Masihiro. There is not such thing as a 'Masihiro' blade, really, as they do not have their own dedicated forge. The are a Re-branding company... they buy swords from many different forges and re-name them to suit their marketing needs at the time. Good swords have been sold under the Masihiro name... and bad ones. The DSA Katana 1706 looks exactly, down to the last detail, like the Masihiro Last Samurai sword, and this is somewhat unsettling to me. I have seen many swords with the same fittings or similar appearences, but this is the most bang on copy I have seen before. Anyway... I have not been able to find out for sure one way or the other yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 1:26:27 GMT
i know it does trouble me that they dont come with a certificate or something i just wated to avoid a arguement with darksword i think its dead on ringer too but eyal swears by his sword thats its not a rebrand
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 1:27:46 GMT
they have at least three on there site that look just like masahiros to a tee i just have my doubts
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 6, 2009 2:16:05 GMT
i know it does trouble me that they dont come with a certificate or something i just wated to avoid a arguement with darksword i think its dead on ringer too but eyal swears by his sword thats its not a rebrand Well, certificates mean nothing... its just a printed piece of paper... anyone can make one and have it say anything at all they want it to. I don't put any stock in that sort of thing. The only real way to be sure is a side by side compression of both swords... and even that would not be 100% conclusive without some scientific testing, because the only claimed difference between both blades is one says 1065 steel and one says 1095 steel. Its HARD to prove that one way or the other. However, you have used your sword and said it performed VERY well... so thats, in the end, what really matters. The rest is all guesswork.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 13:59:18 GMT
it beat out my musashi 69.00 blade my t10 dh musha blade and my united highlander 1045 blade also hands down its a little heavy but i thnk its because im not used to one a t10 dh musha? now that sounds cool. all i can say about this sword is- if you were selling a masahiro, would you admit it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 18:08:40 GMT
yes i agree i wouldnt either but it just seem to close theres three matches in the masahiro section that are a identical match i just dont know i really was impressed with the swords cutting ability but that could be a fluke maybe its because it doesnt have a bo-hi and the t-10 musha does and if your interested in one swordnarmory has one for 199.99 on there site
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2009 18:10:05 GMT
like i said it went through full mat and today i rolled up 6 beach mats together and it cut through them like it wasnt there
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2009 16:29:26 GMT
I've noticed a few things about my DSA katana in the past few days.
A friend of mine and I ordered two of their swords, I got the 1700 model and he got the 1706; the ito cord looks and feels completely different between the two swords, which I find odd, if they were both produced by the same manufacture wouldn't they use the same ito?
The kashiri on my blade is now really loose and with a little pull you can see a huge blob of glue under it that isn't stuck to either surface. The fuchi also had glue under it which I scraped off, and then I make a spacer from cereal box cardboard to fill the gap that the glue was making so the tsuba wouldn't rattle. Ito re-wrap is something I see in my future.
Here's the biggest problem I have though, a secondary bevel on the blade! I polished my sword this weekend, I patiently took my time to make sure I didn't mess up the blade but something I was noticing was that the scratches wouldn't extend to the very edge, they would stop about 1/16th or less of an inch from the edge. Once the wire brushed hamon was gone and I had it nearly mirror finish again this bevel became even more apparent, visible in the reflection when looking at the blade. God knows how long it would take to correct this.
Fake ito, fake ray skin, no surprise if it isn't actually 1095 steel, fairly loose ito wrap, glued on fittings that don't even stay glued on, secondary bevel.
Save your money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2009 17:07:58 GMT
Damn. Thanks for the heads up. Quite a few issues.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2009 19:53:24 GMT
the 1700 has a silk ito and i have the 1706 also it has a cotton ito yet they all say silk ito i told that to eyal and he stated there silk theres a visible difference
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 4:42:12 GMT
My brother in law bought the 1095 Kanji Katana from the sbg store and it arrived on Friday. It's his first sword and he is really excited about it. We unboxed it yesterday and gave it a once over. Everything was tight and it looks to be a nice sword. We took it out back and cut three milk containers. It went through them like they weren't even there. I couldn't believe the blade was that sharp. The only con I have found was that I took a closer look at the blade and noticed what looks to be a small defect in the edge. I took the following pictures right after noticing the little dings in the blade. Now this sword was out of the box for not even an hour before these pictures were taken. As you can hopefully see there are a few nicks and even some rust on the edge. As I said it's his first sword and he is more than happy with it. He doesn't want to complain but I thought it was important to point this out since this thread is an overall review of these new katanas. Even with this minor issue it is a very nice sword. I'm thinking I need to get one before they are all sold out
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 10, 2009 18:18:47 GMT
Were those pictures before or after cutting?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 19:57:01 GMT
It was right after. However as I mentioned all we cut were three 1 gallon milk jugs. What leads me to believe that it was like that before cutting is what appears to be rust on the spots. I also can't believe that cutting a milk jug would cause a blade to nick like that...
End of the day my bother in law is completely happy with this katana. He is looking forward to a cutting class they are going to do next month where he trains.
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Post by randomnobody on Aug 10, 2009 20:09:44 GMT
Hmm... No telling, then. Don't underestimate water-filled plastic, though. Just ask ShooterMike.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 0:35:53 GMT
thats crazy i have know cutting problems yet with mine but as for rust i polish it after i cut with metal glo or stanley polishing past
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 18:24:52 GMT
Just out of curiosity, who made the Masahiro blades? Some of them have turned out to be somewhat gem-like in this profuse market of the production kat. I have a Bamboo that I was going to let go but decided against it...I found I really, really like it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 20:43:40 GMT
i know ryumon is the higher end offshoot of them i think there all made at the same forge where musashi gets theres from
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 12, 2009 12:41:23 GMT
Just out of curiosity, who made the Masahiro blades? Some of them have turned out to be somewhat gem-like in this profuse market of the production kat. I have a Bamboo that I was going to let go but decided against it...I found I really, really like it. Thats just it... thats a huge part why you never can tell about a Masahiro sword... they get their katana from more then one place. So you never know when you getting a great blade, like the famed Bamboo... or a POS.
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