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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2009 13:09:49 GMT
great review man +1 . have to taken it apart yet? or iss it epoxied in? all in all they look great , i may have to pick one up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2009 23:35:26 GMT
so do we know if they will make a dh version?
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Post by randomnobody on Jul 2, 2009 0:44:17 GMT
They have said already that DH and folding are options, but I don't think they've hinted at prices for each yet. I'm hoping they don't pull the same move they did with their "damascus" (pattern welded ) swords and charge a grand or so for a folded, DH version of these... Would certainly not be worth it for just those changes... I fear time shall tell.
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Post by Darksword Armory on Jul 4, 2009 14:09:22 GMT
The DH Katanas are still being made. The "standard" line, presently being offered, is made by Hattori's staff. Hattori's mid range Katana's are forged by a selected team among his staff and the high end - DH (clay tempered) - are individually hand forged by Hattori himself, hence the delay in supplying them. The entire shipment was supposed to arrive in the same container, but the high end Katanas take longer to make. The cost will range between 400 - 600$ ea. Thanks, Eyal Azerad Darksword Armory www.darksword-armory.com
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 0:34:41 GMT
i bought one of the swords from darksword the last samurai version and i think its a mashiro rebranded as i seen the same exact sword to a t on swords of might in the mashiro section for 100 dollars less how can i tell that its not a mashiro ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 0:44:50 GMT
i have a cotton ito also which makes me wonder about it as its supposed to be silk think i got a rebrand ? how would i tell the difference in the steel from 1065 to 1095
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2009 23:22:48 GMT
Dark sword armory kats have model numbers not names. are you sure you got it from darksword armory ( www.darksword-armory.com/katana.html ) if so what model I gat the 1701 model and it has silk ito and a nice blade ? Vic
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 18, 2009 23:37:17 GMT
Hm. Well, I just compared the Kanji on the blade of the DSA katana side by side with the Musashi Last Samurai Katana... and the Kanji DO apear to be the same symbols... tho not the same carving. The engraving on the Musashi is very stright and sharp, the one on the DSA is more rounded and subtle. Odd.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 19:41:30 GMT
go to swords of might .com and open there masahiro section and look at the last samurai sword they have side by side with the one darksword armory has pay close attention to the fittings on the saya and that are made of leather and the tsuba detail
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 19:43:01 GMT
things that make you go hhhhmmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2009 2:43:18 GMT
Hi everyone,
After positive critics from Daniel (a great review by the way, thanks), I bought the 1705 model with samurai fighting on the tsuba (169$ USD). I have to admit that the sword look very nice:
1-the silk tsuka-ito is not too tight but correct (both menuki ornaments are bit loose during manipulation). 2-the fittings are fairly attractive and tight. 3-the black lacquered saya looks smooth and shiny. 4-the blade (carbon steel 1095 with bo-hi) is correctly polished. As Daniel said, the fake brush hamon don't look bad but...
After few testing cuts on bottles and tatami mats, the blade remained sharp and nice. In fact, this katana made a much better job than my cheness tenchi on same tests. In my opinion, the blade geometry facilitates the cuts.
Overall, the Hattori Akio katana impress me, especially at 169$ USD.
Daniel, I am curious to know how were your own cutting tests?
Regards, Narcis
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 20:10:40 GMT
Nice looking sword.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 21:51:06 GMT
Excellant review there. I rather like it for what it is. Real nice fittings, unique them on them, that I like a lot. And that color splashed onto the saya is cool too. Blade looks pretty, other than the hamon. Bleh I hate wire brushed more then etched. The tsuka looks good too, tight and even, nice shape, but yea, as you said, not alternating.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2009 22:24:08 GMT
go to swords of might .com and open there masahiro section and look at the last samurai sword they have side by side with the one darksword armory has pay close attention to the fittings on the saya and that are made of leather and the tsuba detail Please tell me this isn't a rebrand with silk ito. I am not making ANY accusations, rather just looking for a confirmation before I purchase this sword. Here's the links: www.darksword-armory.com/katana-1706.htmlwww.swordsofmight.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=439
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Post by shadowhowler on Jul 26, 2009 23:03:54 GMT
go to swords of might .com and open there masahiro section and look at the last samurai sword they have side by side with the one darksword armory has pay close attention to the fittings on the saya and that are made of leather and the tsuba detail Please tell me this isn't a rebrand with silk ito. I am not making ANY accusations, rather just looking for a confirmation before I purchase this sword. Here's the links: www.darksword-armory.com/katana-1706.htmlwww.swordsofmight.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=439 It may be a re-brand... I have the Katana 1706 from DSA right next to me, I'm looking into the matter. The Masahiro from that link also claims to have silk ito, BTW. I'll have more information soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 0:36:17 GMT
It may be a re-brand... I have the Katana 1706 from DSA right next to me, I'm looking into the matter. The Masahiro from that link also claims to have silk ito, BTW. I'll have more information soon. My mistake. I assumed for $99 it would not have a silk ito.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 16:25:07 GMT
I have the same version as Dan's, except I got the DH version. I too feel like the ito is a little loose. Also, mine got beat up during shipping and my saya has a tiny crack in it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 17:51:51 GMT
Hey guys I just bought my first katana; the model 1700 from DSA, and I figure a little review would do well as my first post on this forum which I've only lurked until now. The first thing I noticed was the blade facing side of the tsuba which is not what I was expecting from seeing the tsuka facing side pictures that have a design depicting mount Fuji (I assume), but I rather like it. Here's a photo. That little hole was rather rough, it took a little piece of skin off the top of my thumb; nothing a round file and a minute of work couldn't fix though. As I pulled the blade from the saya I found it covered in oil and wax, I'm assuming to protect the blade while it's in transit (Sometimes a little fleck of wax still shows up when I draw but most of it has come off on the blade from repeatedly taking the blade out), the wax is actually a little cumbersome to remove from the blade but it's not too big of a deal. The blade itself Is quite shiny and I don't mind the wire brush hamon; however it will likely be polished out soon when I sharpen it. The ito could be a lot tighter to say the least; I can't remember the name of it but the fitting on the bottom of the tsuka seemed quite loose and one side of the fitting wasn't glued properly (The gold coloured piece on the side, see the pic) and the whole fitting pulls from the bottom with very little force. I could be wrong but I have doubts about the ito being silk; I've never felt what I know to be a silk ito but I have felt a genuine silk kimono that was bought in Japan and it feels quite different (Although of course there is a weave difference between kimono and ito). It feels like a shoelace, but this could just be my gaijin hands. I was a little too excited to take it apart without cutting anything first and water bottles were on sale of 24 bottle for $3 ;D. While practicing my form without targets I was attacked by a group of invading ninja-bottles and had to cut my way through a case of them before cutting down their 2 litre 7-Up samurai master. I had tons of fun to say the least. I'm sure my form isn't the greatest but I still got some nice, clean, straight cuts. The blade seems to be quite sharp, but I plan on spending some time making it sharper on the next sunny day I get. I also need to make some choji oil because I spilled the little vial that comes with the sword. After cutting I felt the slightest wobble in the tang inside the tsuka if I would wave the sword side to side, after taking the katana apart and reassembling it there is no long the wobble feel, I think I know what caused it and will explain that in a moment. I didn't take pictures during the disassembly but I will talk about it never the less. The mekugi were extremely tight but I got them out with a little work. The tsuka had a very tight friction fit on the tang, I resorted to covering a hammer with cloth and tapping gently on the tsuba until it came loose. I think what caused this tightness is also what cause the wobble feeling I talked about earlier. I believe the cause was the bur left on the holes from drilling, I made quick work of them with a file but would have rathered they de-bur it before sending it out. The only thing resembling a signature was a kanji done with sharpie. After reassembling the katana there was a little wobble in the tsuba, I'm hoping I can fix this on my next disassembly with a small shim of paper. All in all I'm pretty impressed by the sword, and will certainly be putting it through it's paces this summer; I hope to try my hand at some tatami soon as well. See you later guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2009 14:23:41 GMT
a responce from darksword regarding the last samurai sword Hi,
Thank you for your response.
I absolutely agree with you. Aesthetically, they are the same sword. They are not made by the same manufacturer nor with the same material however. The Hattori Katanas we sell are made of 1095 High Carbon steel. The blades are Tempered to a Rockwell of 58. My cost, as the importer, is 130$. The Katanas are being sold at a discount price as a introductory line. After September the cost will be 249 - 269$. The swords shown on Sword of Might's website are certainly not the same quality. The retail cost is considerably lower than the wholesale cost, which is indicative of the quality of the piece. The material used is not the same. That particular one is made of 1065 and there is no indication of the Tempering, a very important detail for decent functional weapons. It should also be noted that this is the "Last Samurai" sword/design. There are many versions of this Katana, made by various people with varying quality and with some variation. Here are quick examples I found just in 5 minutes on Google:
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Post by shadowhowler on Aug 3, 2009 20:35:56 GMT
joeydac: You may be somewhat new to forums or, at least, sword forums... so let me offer ya a bit of advice. It is typicly considered VERY poor form and somewhat rude to make public any private corospondance you may have with manufactures/vendors. Unless of course Eyal said it was ok for you to post his response.
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