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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 4:43:37 GMT
Well I was always told that the Toyama style decended from old samurai styles, but given that the basic at swings and noto are seen in one form or another in every Japanese style of sword its kinda easy to say so. I to have questioned chiburi on my own and even tested on various fluids of different viscosity. There has to be a huge amount of fluid for chiburi to work, that or you have to use to much speed and sudden stop. Using a rag or some type of cloth is the only real way for removal, BUT even then one wipe would not free you from every last drop.
Yeah I enjoyed the documentry very much. There are about 10 like it that I love to watch. Even though the information is not spot on allot of the time they do have allot of people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 4:52:08 GMT
If you are describing what I think you are describing that is the way that I was taught to draw and noto as well. Personally I find in this style of noto you have more control and you are less likely to chop off an ear In all seriousness though, the noto you describe i find far more practical, especially when making cuts from the draw and when resheathing. I also don't like the "spin and bang the handle" chiburi, I don't think that it would displace much blood or other fluids at all, better to wipe it down with a rag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 5:46:57 GMT
well in the noto I saw they pull the saya to the kissaki and then turn the saya and do a normal noto. It was different to be because in toyama you try as best you can to stay in a defensive mode even during noto. Basicly not making and unessesary moves that would make it to hard to assume an attack posture. It is for that reason that I think allot of toyama swordsmen do not do the whole cloth wipe before noto.
That style had allot of really cool moves including a jumping strike from 12 to 6. I would not think that move would be used in to much combat, but I watched as one sensei was over a foot off the ground!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2009 12:35:23 GMT
The noto and jumping strikes make me think that you're talking about Sekiguchi Ryu:
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Post by genocideseth on Jun 6, 2009 21:28:33 GMT
I am guessing the point was to show her coordination or dexterity. Although I would rather see fancy cuts, this was very impressive. Call me a douche and slap me silly, but this video actually inspired me. Not the noto, or the arrow cutting, but the dedication and such... I'll shut up now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2009 17:19:16 GMT
hehe Berzerker, nothing wrong with that, that's a good thing if you ask me. Yea I've seen many Ytube vids with that noto and always questioned it. Seems like you are leaving yourself very vulnerable to attack while doing it. And I didn't see it being any more effective at removing blood then a good ol' fashioned chiburi.
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