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Post by tengu76 on May 31, 2009 1:05:20 GMT
The first post said......."Hey, maybe I don't get something. After I use my sword I clean it carefully and then oil and put it to saya till next day. Next day I take it outside, doing dry cuts and then water bottles, this takes like 30-60min. If I wipe blade after each water bottle cut, water make little stains that can be wiped off if doing right away. If I don't wipe the blade, it is oiled and water is falling off but some still is on blade. And today I noticed that small barely visible black/brown dots appeared on blade. Is this rust? I very concern. Am I doing something wrong? I appreciate your help. Now is bad lightning, if you need I'll make photo tomorrow in the morning" ALL I did was give what helpfull info that I could. Use what you want,but metal glow is what I know as far as other places I don't know. I thinking your reading into this too far.
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Post by genocideseth on May 31, 2009 1:51:37 GMT
What's ridiculous??? Nobody said you HAVE to buy MetalGlo and MetalGlo only. Exatly... any polish with the same properties will do. It's just that, when a perticular brand becomes so well know, you tend to call everything of that substance by the name of the popular brand. Take, for example, Coke a Cola. Lots of people will just refer to ANY cola as 'I'd like a coke' but they don't nessecarly mean they have to have Coke brand cola... it's just Coke is so well know as cola that a lot of people call ALL cola coke. ;D Amen brother! Hi five! *Raises arm in the air waiting for a response* To help with OP: I always wipe my sword off every bottle with a piece of Paper Towel. usually the same one, my blade will still be damp for a few more bottles, but better than soaking I would imagine. But it also depends on what I plan on doing after the cut, if I am putting it down for a period longer than 20 seconds, I wipe it down completely. If not, I just wipe off as much as I can with my paper towel or cloth, and continue cutting. My blade has no rust spots, but then again, I am a bit careless and am debating antiquing my sword.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 2:55:56 GMT
In answer to the OP - I didn't wipe my blades at all while cutting bottles. I just cut, replace the bottle, cut again etc till there were no more bottles/targets. If that's 30min that's 30 min. If it takes 2 hrs because I've got friends there and they want to try cutting then it takes 2 hrs. I've never really had any bad rust issues - the only times really are when I've cut bottles that weren't rinsed well before being filled with water.
Now I've never sheathed a sword while it was wet (well I did once and I paid for it with water spots and rust spots all up and down my blade - learned well enough after that though). I'll also say that all swords that I owned (as in my personal blades and not stuff I retail) get a lube job. More specifically I disassemble the sword and cover the entire blade (excluding nakago)with a high viscosity synthetic grease. This grease has a bonding action that bonds to the metal and provides it with a semi-permanent rust retardant and water resistant protective coating. It has no effect whatsoever on the edge's sharpness nor does it affect cutting ability. All it does is make the water bead up and roll off the blade. A simple flick of the blade and a wipe is all it takes to get the water off. If I was cutting something with acidic properties (tatami, fruits and veggies, any green juicy plant material) I make sure to clean extra well with an ammonia based cleaner (Windex) and wipe down again before re-greasing then sheathing.
All in all I've not had issues with rusting.
Sam
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 8:49:28 GMT
The thing is that saying "for oni other countries apart from America lacks all the good stuff for katanas. There is no Metal Glo on ebay.co.uk any substitudes, as its to expensive to ship it from USA." I am right. Maybe I'm a bit wrong, something is more expensive and something you simple can't get here. For example jewellers rouge is more expensive here and it is really hard to find finer than 9 microns sanding paper in UK and especially in my home country. What I wanted to say, I'm not after particular brand, just searching for substitutes (as I recall oni recommended to use simple belt for stropping, I was afraid I will have to buy leather hone for like 50$). Like AutoSol is good substitute and available here so I will use this one, but without you guys I wouldn't not from where to start. You asked a question, and I gave a direct answer to that particular combined question/statement that obviously was a problem for you. I think that it is not to much to expect some kind of indication or reaction to show the answer is in some way noticed and read. That is for me normal behavior. To not do that and act like nothing is in my opinion rude and effects the motivation to answer something that noone else mentiones, and then we don´t have any answers anymore from more than a little recognized group of people. It seems to be a common phenomena, that is why I mention it. But personally I honestly don´t mind or care the least what you use or not. So for the particular question, According to a distributor I´ve talked with it is the exact same thing; Autosol is called Metalglo io the U.S. However, if that is correct I don´t know. Perhaps it´s better than Metalglo. At least it works on carbon steel knives.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 10:37:17 GMT
I think you're overreacting k koumori. Sometimes ppl may miss a post when reading or something. Other than that, myself I'm not always writing "thanks" to every single constructive response that I receive. I don't see anything wrong with that nor does that mean I didn't read it or didn't aknowledge it.
On the matter at hand, I also say "MetalGlo", cause the majority of this forum is from the USA and it's the most known polish here. By that I don't mean it's the best one or the only one.
So, let's chill before a mod comes here and decides that half of the thread is pure rubbish and belongs to the bin ( and I'd agree with him completely ).
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 10:51:36 GMT
Thank you all guy. And sorry if you think that rude words came from my mouth I really don't mean it . So it appears for me that problem is solved. What I need to do is use some metal polishing paste, which protects the steel from moisture.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 14:42:08 GMT
Thank you all guy. And sorry if you think that rude words came from my mouth I really don't mean it . So it appears for me that problem is solved. What I need to do is use some metal polishing paste, which protects the steel from moisture. Word. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 2:42:43 GMT
i use filtz polish on all my guns knives and swords.i havent found any product that can match its ability to prevent rusting.i do have some old guns that already had a bit of rust on them when i bought them,and it pulls the rust right out!love it!
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