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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 14:41:07 GMT
how do you think samegawa would react to minwax wood stain? I'm thinking of staining the samegawa on my tenchi. I know it wouldnt paint it solid black or anything but I'm wondering how the same would react...
I'm looking for a dark antique look.
any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 16:08:53 GMT
As I'm sure you know, the little nodules in the same are like rocks. I've never heard of anything that will penetrate it, though there may very well be something out there. I haven't tried it or heard of anyone who has but it seems that is the reason they paint the stuff instead of dying it. I very much doubt you would get the result you are looking for. At best I think it would settle in the creases and dry giving you a two tone sort of look.
My wife works in the custom cowboy boot industry and stingray is pretty common. All her suppliers use paint. Never heard of a dye or stain that would work.
Hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 16:09:28 GMT
Find an antique coloured dye and mix it with cashew lacquer and then apply to your samegawa, I don't think a wood stain would work correctly because I don't think the porosity of the ray skin would hold the stain if that makes sense. Because cashew lacquer is clear a dye should shoot it through without affecting the characteristics of the lacquer.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 18:38:03 GMT
I have two dyed skins, one tan antique and one black. The nodes are stained right through. So it's possible. I'd try textile dye and boil it for several hours, but try a small test strip first.
Bloodwraiths suggestion seems to do the trick in an easy and controllable way, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 11:13:03 GMT
Minwax Polyshade urethane wood stain often is used for speed-painting tabletop wargaming miniatures. You paint the miniature in its basecolours and then dip it into the wood stain, shaking of the excess stain. The stain will settle in the recess areas of the model leaving the raised areas almost free. When it dries, you get a nice shading on the model and a good protective polyurethane layer. Here the before / after: Here on a white model, just to show the effect: On the white same you can expect a simmilar effect, the stain will settle in the recesses, while the bumps will stand out white. Hope this helps.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 11:21:52 GMT
Problem is that you get pooling, also this is in the wargaming world the technique we call "dipping" it is extremely hard to control so that you get an even coverage. Samegawa doesn't have the same characteristics as plastic or of a painted service. The reason that minwax works on miniatures is because the basecoat builds up a slightly gritty base for the stain to adhere to, you don't have that with samegawa. I stand by my first thought about dyes and cashew lacquer, it has been tried and tested. Actually now that my brain seems to be functioning better, find whatever shade you want the samegawa to be and just follow the same steps you would for lacquering a coloured saya
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 11:48:07 GMT
Problem is that you get pooling, also this is in the wargaming world the technique we call "dipping" it is extremely hard to control so that you get an even coverage. Samegawa doesn't have the same characteristics as plastic or of a painted service. The pooling can be a problem on your first few trys but once you get the hang of it you can get perfect results. You just have to control the amount of stain your putting on and the viscosity. As same can be painted the charasteristics will probably be no problem too, just spray paint the same with some clear acrylic paint befor you use the woodstain.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 23:50:46 GMT
I have two dyed skins, one tan antique and one black. The nodes are stained right through. So it's possible. I'd try textile dye and boil it for several hours, but try a small test strip first. Bloodwraiths suggestion seems to do the trick in an easy and controllable way, though. Ichiban-- +1. That's nice information to have. S'pose boiling it would open up the pores so to speak. Thanks.
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