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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 4:30:25 GMT
my fav is the monkey pole form. the rest is also good.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 10:49:13 GMT
Agreed, that monkey pole form rocks! The spear one is great too. And what an amazing place to train!
Excellent viewing! Thanks & +1 for sharing!
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Marc E
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 14:29:04 GMT
Cool vid, I had to favorite that one. My favorites were, in order, Monkey staff, chain whip, straight sword, and spear. The falling split made me cringe though.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 0:47:33 GMT
Excellent display of physical skill...less certain as a display of martial skills. Some of the things they did have no options out of...if you can only do one thing, then I know how to counter you...if you can counter my counter then it´s okay...but if you can not...then it is a poor choice in a martial encounter. Prime example...the chain dagger being swung under the body while laying prone...looks cool and is a great display of physical skill...but in a fight, you can ONLY do that from that position and the counter of jumping on top of you and skewering you can not be countered while you do that so it is a god awful martial skill. Looks cool usually = bad idea in a real fight.
The spear was good though. He was only in a position of having one option only once that I noticed...the sword forms are doing the classic wushu stage combat display which isn´t really a good example of what REAL kungfu swordplay is like. Once again, looks cool...wows the onlookers with the looks of fierceness and speed...but ultimately bad swordmanship...just like all stage combat.
The unarmed monkey was nicely done...the staff monkey had him drop the staff too often for display purposed and not martial purposes.
So all in all very entertaining to watch...and if that is the purpose of this video then it did a great job. Otherwise I find it lacking.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 12:26:54 GMT
Agreed, display arts (like in the vid) are fun to watch. The actual fighting aspect usually isn't so pretty. I've been practicing a bit with the chain whip myself and found the only reason that move is included in a lot of forms is just as a show of skill. Also I've been finding in my research that this particular weapon was used more as a back-up weapon or off hand weapon. I'll have to search You tube and see if I can't find an example.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 8:03:11 GMT
id say they are taught all these flashy moves just in case they are ever in that positon, they are trained to get out of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2009 8:59:03 GMT
No they are trained in these "flashy" moves to build endurance and stamina and to teach correct body movement, many of these techniques are no combat techniques they are self perfecting techniques.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 11:05:14 GMT
they should have shown the tiger crane dragon punch of death
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2009 19:57:56 GMT
The Origins Of Shaolin Kung Fu
The origin of Shaolin Kung Fu is generally credited to an Indian monk named Tat Moh. He began life as a prince in Southern India, but became a devoted Buddhist, renouncing his royal heritage to take up the simple lifestyle of a monk. He traveled widely, spreading the teachings of Buddhism. Eventually he rose to become the 28th patriarch of India.
In those days, it was common for Indian monks to travel to China where their Buddhist teachings were eagerly received. In the year 520 A.D. Tat Moh made just such a journey, right through India and China, finally settling at the monastery called Shao Lin - which means 'little forest'. He was disappointed, however, to find the monks very weak and unable to withstand the austere ways of Buddhism - a life which often consisted of long fasts and frugal living.
Tat Moh therefore retired into a cave and meditated in isolation in order to find a solution to the problem. When he emerged after nine years of hard study, he had devised a set of exercises for the monks. These were similar to some Indian exercises such as yoga and were intended to regulate and strengthen the monks' chi flow. Their intention was to strengthen the monks and increase their health and vitality; and this they did, so successfully that Tat Moh's Chi Kung exercises are still practiced to this day. They form the basis of the Shaolin Arts.
It seems that in China there was more than one temple named 'Shaolin'. In this history we will discuss only the Shaolin temple in Fukien Province, since ours is a Fukienese art.
In the history of China there was much lawlessness. Bandits and villains were widespread. Temples were vulnerable to attack, as were monks who traveled the country teaching the ways of Buddhism. So as to protect themselves, the monks developed a system of fighting based on the exercises taught by the founder master - Tat Moh.
Buddhist monks are very gentle and good natured. Their fighting system was developed only to defend themselves against harm. This system was called the 'Lohon' style after the monks in the temple (Lohons) who developed it. The Lohon style is a very basic form of Kung Fu which emphasizes low stances and strong body posture. It proved very successful.
The monks of the Shaolin temple practiced diligently to increase their martial arts skills and were constantly striving to improve their art.
Many people do not realize that the origin of buddism is founded from hinduism, and that the origin of kung fu is founded from yoga.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 0:00:12 GMT
That is why I have no qualm with practicing both yoga ( I practice the Aunsara style of John friend) along with Chinese martial arts. Plus the yoga is something the wife and I can do together, and partnered yoga routines have other benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 0:49:37 GMT
That is why I have no qualm with practicing both yoga ( I practice the Aunsara style of John friend) along with Chinese martial arts. Plus the yoga is something the wife and I can do together, and partnered yoga routines have other benefits. Okay, now I AM impressed. you dont meet too many dual practitioners. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 10:19:01 GMT
What's impressive. I use Yoga stretches for warm ups. My wife started doing some Yoga as warm ups for her Middle Eastern Dance practices, and it turned into a good compromise excercise between the Raks Sharqui (Oriental Dance) that she does and the Taijiquan that I do.
When you get down to it, it is still building Chi and letting the breath and intent lead the movement. I had also added a couple Pilates exercises to my routine (again I got them from my wife's dance videos) because the help open and strengthen the Kua (hip joint). One of the things I love about independent study is that I don't locked into the "I only do what Sifu tells me" mindset. Not to mention many traditional students get upset when they don't see themselves exactly copying their Sifu. The truth is the students forms should not look like my teachers form because the student and teacher have different bodies. This does not necessarily mean the student is doing the movements incorrectly, but maybe the instructor modifies a certain movement because of an old injury - the student would not need that modification because the student is uninjured. The key is body awareness and self-knowledge which are skills martial arts are supposed to develop.
Personally I feel that practicing Yoga helps me become aware of my body and self which in turn helps my taiji practice. Training clips I have taken where I show extremely poor, stiff performance in my forms are usually days I skipped Yoga before doing taiji, days I am more loose, flowing in my movement, and "Sung" are days I did get to do Yoga first. For me the Yoga helps and i see very little conflict between it and the taijiquan. Much less than when I was still trying to practice some of my old hard style martial arts along with the taiji.
Again, I don't see this as impressive so much, but more an example that I have spent time to find out what works for me as an individual. Nothing more, nothing less. Many taiji players practice Qi Gong which is more or less a moving type of yoga to develop the breath and the spirit. I've tried to learn of few routines, but I don't feel drawn to them. The static poses of Hatha Yoga seem to work better for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 20:02:51 GMT
cool, but still impressive. i still say lots of practitioners dont realize that origin. its nice to see some one has that knowledge. the blending that you describe actually sound sgreat. i know a licensed massage therapist that incorporates his tui na into his therapy. that makes for one heck of a massage. i spend a bunch of bucks with him when my old neck bothers me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 23:35:02 GMT
Hey like I said, I just have tried to find out what works for me. Nothing more, nothing less. Self-knowledge seems to be the key.
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