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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 4:46:54 GMT
Skip chudan after the cut.
Length and weight shouldn't be a problem unless you're learning a particular style, as long as you can handle the blade, which comes with practice. Until then, cutting uh, "properly" could be a little difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 8:49:28 GMT
It is one fluid move but the transition from chudan to jodan can be as fast or slow as you like. The reason I suggest the transition back into chudan is it gets you into the habit of always coming back to guard which is a very useful thing to learn in my experience. When starting out the transition fron chudan to jodan to cut lasts about 3-4 seconds especially since you have never done it before. I'm not saying there is a way to cut properly in a general sense but there is a way to cut properly when learning systems and this is the way I have been trained to do it, but you can take or leave what I say as it is entirely upto you. Length and weight is always a problem when starting out because you don't know what to expect.
Oh and very important note that I forgot to mention, if making a left to right cut, lead with the left foot so the leading foot or leg won't get impacted by the blade if you drop the point, vice versa for right to left.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 14:04:37 GMT
It is one fluid move but the transition from chudan to jodan can be as fast or slow as you like. The reason I suggest the transition back into chudan is it gets you into the habit of always coming back to guard which is a very useful thing to learn in my experience. When starting out the transition fron chudan to jodan to cut lasts about 3-4 seconds especially since you have never done it before. I'm not saying there is a way to cut properly in a general sense but there is a way to cut properly when learning systems and this is the way I have been trained to do it, but you can take or leave what I say as it is entirely upto you. Length and weight is always a problem when starting out because you don't know what to expect. Oh and very important note that I forgot to mention, if making a left to right cut, lead with the left foot so the leading foot or leg won't get impacted by the blade if you drop the point, vice versa for right to left. Alright. Thanks a lot again, Bloodrwaith. If it worked for you I have no reason to doubt that it'll help me. I'll be sure to try this out today or tomorrow. (hopefully today!) I always do lead with the left foot when going from left to right. I learned that awhile ago after hearing about someone getting hurt because they cut left to right and lead with the right foot. Skip chudan after the cut. Length and weight shouldn't be a problem unless you're learning a particular style, as long as you can handle the blade, which comes with practice. Until then, cutting uh, "properly" could be a little difficult. Hm, okay. Well, I'll try it both ways and see how it goes. I'm glad to hear that the blade weight & length are just something to learn. It'd suck to be stuck with it if it held me back. I'll just try and use my sword more (a few days ago was the first time in like 6 months). That should solve that. Good thing it's warm outside! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 23:24:36 GMT
Actually, I like bloodwraith's idea of coming into chudan. I've usually seen it go strait to jodan. I was just imagining it wrong. Either/or for you, but I perfectly agree with bw on this. I think I'll do that myself from now on. Thanks, bw. Btw, I didn't mean anything by putting quotes around properly. Just didn't want to seem like there was one way to do it, myself.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 23:45:09 GMT
You can definitely learn and adapt to weight and length however I find buying the right length and weight in the first place saves a great deal of time and agony (as per the sakura). I also find that you really have to mesh with a weapon to use it effectively and that is the reason I sold the sakura because I couldn't integrate with. Yes I could cut with it and do everything else but if you can't make the blade an extension of yourself you can't do as well as you could with a blade that is an extension of you.
Steve: no problems mate, there is no perfect way to do anything unless you are training for perfection in a particular style. You can cut any old how and many people do but if you want to improve I find it necessary to pick a style and stick with it. The way I cut is the way I have been taught to cut and it has been working for me for many years so the proper way for me to cut is that way, no one else has to follow my way and unless they are specifically trying to cut in the same way I have been taught then I cannot judge properly or not, I can only advise. Also you have to take into account the type of weapon as well, I would not for example cut with a two edged straight sword (european) the way I cut with a katana. If I am using a filipino weapon I won't cut the same way I would with say a shamshir. Properly is relative to style and weapon is what I am saying in my usual long winded way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 0:50:48 GMT
Hey everyone! So I said hi to Hiroshi last night on AIM, and he wound up offering advice and suggestions to me about my cutting. I said "Please o.o" and he helped me out a ton! He simplified things that seemed so complex before, and I feel like I soaked up all of his advice like a sponge. Thanks again Hiroshi! ;D Anyways. I took Hiroshi's advice and mixed it around with what bloodwraith said (about drawing my cuts) and stevepoppers said (about being a bit more "square") and I went outside to do some cutting today... and things went great! It was so exciting for some reason! Things went so well, it felt unreal. I made a video (this time from the side like I said I would)... not sure what else to say, lol. Here you go! Thanks everyone! (especially Hiroshi and bloodwraith and stevepoppers) Edit: Gah, I look weird when the camera's off to the side pointing at me diagonally.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 3:50:23 GMT
Wow. Now you've got a really nice form and you're still cutting those bottles so smoothly. I'm interested in what Hiroshi had to say...Care to share?
Unless bw has anything to add, I'd say you've got it. Really nice!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 4:56:12 GMT
looking better shippofox but as your cutting bring the end of the tsuka almost to your hip.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2009 7:41:49 GMT
Looking better mate, now that you have the arm mechanics worked out you need to start using the rest of the body with the arm mechanics. The first thing to learn is to step into the target as you make the cut, standing rigid doesn't really give you the right feel or allow you to utilise body mechanics. As you step in and start to make the cut, lean your body to the side. For example if making a left to right cut lean your body slightly to the left while in jodan and twist your upper body with the cut.
Hiroshi is right you are bringing the tsuka too far past your hip the end should be in front of the hip. You still seem to be dropping the point a bit too much.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2009 18:10:33 GMT
Shoot Fox, after watching you I am going to slow down and improve my "tomatoe slicing" form and speed up slowly afterwards. Thanks for posting the vid!
Oh, I explained a cutting platform I made with 2 2x4's in 15 minutes that adjusts. It's in "I actually cut today" and if you want pics just say so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2009 1:55:26 GMT
Shoot Fox, after watching you I am going to slow down and improve my "tomatoe slicing" form and speed up slowly afterwards. Thanks for posting the vid! Oh, I explained a cutting platform I made with 2 2x4's in 15 minutes that adjusts. It's in "I actually cut today" and if you want pics just say so. I'll take a look at the stand if you can get some pictures. I'd really like to be rid of the wooden stump. I haven't been able to do any cutting since spring break.. Only get like 30 minutes a day to myself now. Stupid exams are coming up soon. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2009 12:22:35 GMT
Fox - I just saw this. Study first, I will get time in a few days. I won't forget.
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