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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 1:53:14 GMT
Stainless steel, the blood probably realised it had more iron in it and wouldn't adhere
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 2:09:41 GMT
Yeah those practicals are to plain for my taste. They are there for dojo cutting. That it. Period. Im not a dojo cutting, I like some eye candy on my deadly weapons lol. What about those $200 Musashi swords? Well they are 1045...the fittings looks pretty nice, but the blade seems to be meh. The 1045 DH line that costs 90 bucks has a much better looking blade but the fitting are a bit more plain...but the bamboo one is quite nice at least. And the 90 dollar ones have a real hamon vs the etched one of the 200 dollar ones.
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 20, 2009 2:28:16 GMT
Well, I actually don't own that sword anymore, as it was robbed from my house along with my guitar.... Now lets not stray from the original topic...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 2:35:59 GMT
Lol yeah choo choo thread derailed. Ok how about this one, Cheness Tenchi, or the Kaze? After reading the reviews, and seeing that they both at least have real same (plus the real hamon on the kaze), which one would you recommend? Now the hamon to me is a nice plus, but not the deal maker. Especialy considering that the etched ones are not half bad. Its that I have no idea what form of "form" I have.
Having never cut before I want a sword that is razor sharp and can take accidental abuse from poor form. Which they both seem to go either way. Price is not the issue at this point with the both of them. Just which one would you recommend?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 2:48:53 GMT
I REALLY have a hard time recommending cheness these days. They QC have gone way down and other options have gotten better.
Your budget seems to be in flux there a bit though. So like I said, for 300 bucks, get a roninsword. It'll have a killer blade and be a very nice eye candy. Suck it up and wait and get all that you want.
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 20, 2009 2:49:17 GMT
The Tenchi may be better for abuse, as it is through hardened and may be a lot more "Springy". A Kaze may be less forgiving to bad form, but it is in no way delicate. I would personally go for the Kaze for the Hamon, but if it was to be used more as a tool, I would go for the Tenchi.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 2:55:16 GMT
Lol everytime I get an idea of what I want, someone gives me a a reason not to go for it. My budget is not really in flux. The Gift end of it is about max $180, possibly including shipping, depends how much she would freak out on how much shes gonna spend on, in her eyes, a giant kitchen knife lol. The rest of the money is out of pocket, So If I wanted something leaning towards 250, I wouldn't really have to much problem shelling out that extra cash. So I think the budget is flexable depending on how excited I get about the sword in question.
I do have a while to go, as my birthday is early April. But I don't really want to wait a long time for it. As the eairlest she would put money down for a gift would a month, month and a half. So I dont want it to be the day of my birthday, and nothing in hand. Yeah Im a little impatient like that lol.
But what QC issues do you speak of? I have not read anyone complaining about them on this forum. At the same time what ronin sword do you speak of anyway. They all seem to be very expensive.
Oh and by tool what do you mean? It will be on display and used for backyard cutting. Maybe one day even for formal training if I have the time/money/resources. Im not going to be trimming hedges with it lol.
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 20, 2009 2:58:17 GMT
I was not aware the You could purchase a Ronin Sword for under 300$. If that is the case, get one. I have wanted a Ronin sword for the longest time and I think you would be quite happy with one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 3:01:05 GMT
Yeah thats my point, I looked at the site and im pretty sure everything was scary expensive. So what are we talking about here?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 3:09:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 3:17:15 GMT
Yeah thats my point, I looked at the site and im pretty sure everything was scary expensive. So what are we talking about here? The hana-kage is 225. The heianjo is 300.
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Post by genocideseth on Jan 20, 2009 3:25:37 GMT
Sweet! now I know what is next on my list!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 3:25:50 GMT
What about the one for 300 on the dot? Thats not with shipping right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 3:39:30 GMT
Yeah those practicals are to plain for my taste. They are there for dojo cutting. That it. Period. Im not a dojo cutting, I like some eye candy on my deadly weapons lol. What about those $200 Musashi swords? Well they are 1045...the fittings looks pretty nice, but the blade seems to be meh. The 1045 DH line that costs 90 bucks has a much better looking blade but the fitting are a bit more plain...but the bamboo one is quite nice at least. And the 90 dollar ones have a real hamon vs the etched one of the 200 dollar ones. Actually the Elite or Presentational line of katana have real hamon. Yes they're 1045 but they are DH (via water, not clay) and do have real hamon, not etched. When you pay $200 for a Musashi vs a $100 Musashi (Bamboo) you're paying for the nicer furniture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 4:09:41 GMT
So most Musashi are using the same blade? Just different fittings?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 4:24:01 GMT
For the most part yes.
Oops - hit the enter key by accident.
Anyway yes - if you look at Musashi's swords that are within the same price range (within $10-$20 of each other) you'll notice that the blades are pretty much the same blades. Just different furniture. Now there are exceptions to that but that's what I've seen for the most part.
As for the $200 katana - the blades look fairly similar to the blades in the $90 Bamboo and its cousins. Just better fittings.
I could be wrong though but take it for what its worth.
Honestly I'd stick with the sub-$100 musashis and move on up to Hanwei if you want the katana priced around $200 for the time being.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 6:43:49 GMT
Wait so the presentational ones have the same blade as the new tokusen line? They don't look the same...the hamon seems quite different. Even after polising mine up, the tokusen has a pretty distinct hamon while the presentational looks very faint.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2009 15:42:57 GMT
I said I could be wrong. I've just noticed that Musashi tends to use the same blades with different fittings. The presentational blades might be completely different blades or they could be the same blade with a different polishing. I'm not sure but they are listed as being water quenched DH blades... ha with an hrc of 55.
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