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Post by Vance Proctor on Jan 15, 2024 19:11:47 GMT
I'm writing this review about the Lancelot sword Supreme cutter classic. Usually around this time if year I start looking at swords and this year I started where I usually do and that's kult of Athena,the first brand that shows up in the see all brands is Lancelot sword I assumed by the name that another medieval sword manufacturer was on the scene buy was I wrong,instead I found the Supreme cutter classic. Some of the reasons I bought the sword was 1.This is the sword I've been waiting for someone to make for a long time. 2.a sword that was made to be used. 3.i feel it is an excellent value. As far as historical references I don't really think there are any as this sword is unique so I guess it will make it's own history. Let me explain that I am far from an expert and know just enough to get myself in trouble I'm a backyard warrior and all around bladed weapon enthusiast so please excuse any term I get wrong. They say first impressions are lasting ones and this sword is no different,pictures Don't do it justice from the moment you remove it from the presentation box you can tell that this one is special and the first thing that jumps out is the blades mirror polish and smoothness there's not a dimple anywhere.as far as the ordering experience with Koa I placed my oder on Dec. 8th and received the sword on Dec 13th koa was good about sending the tracking information and it arrived undamaged and in perfect condition. The sword was perfect and after a few initial practice swings I couldn't wait to get cutting. As far as physical dimensions are concerned while I'm writing this I realized that this is the first sword I haven't weighed or broke out the calipers for usually I do to check for accuracy but I didn't this time because it feels so good in hand that it doesn't matter to me.koa has stats and you can visit Lancelot swords website. Now to the good part,how does it handle?it claims to be 3lbs 9oz but it doesn't feel slow or sluggish at all,the mass distribution is excellent point of balance is where it should be,it manages to be lively without sacrificing cutting power it moves very well now I'm above average in strength but my 5foot mother has no problem handling the sword lol. I've done some light cutting with it no hard targets yet and considering that's not what it was designed for it performed very well.i will add I learned quickly to moderate my swings because this sword is fast and hits hard! In conclusion the only thing that really surprised me was the level of polish on the blade because you don't really see that in this price range it's got form and function. Pros: overall engineering and design. Handling Weight/balance Value Blade polishing Well executed fullers
Cons: none other than trying to find a good back rig so I can carry it lol. I would definitely recommend this sword for everyone from collectors,backyard cutters to serious practitioners it checks the boxes.and there is no other sword sold with a tutorial Software/hardware meaning this sword was meant to be used.i plan on purchasing more sword from him in the future check him out really nice guy.
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Post by miraculix101 on Jan 16, 2024 15:06:49 GMT
Well,
just my 2 cents.
New member in Forum , first and only post is a review about a sword which another forum member designed. No facts, no data, no pictures, just some info which could be taken 1 to 1 from a sale prospect.
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Post by Vance Proctor on Jan 16, 2024 19:49:09 GMT
I'm sorry it didn't provide enough info.like you said new member first post.in the future I'll be sure to run my reviews by you for approval because your review was much better than mine and you are obviously the expert around here.i guess you were never new to the forum.i was told that people can be Jerks on these forums and so far their right.
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Post by mrstabby on Jan 16, 2024 20:19:08 GMT
Don't take it as an affront, we are a bit suspicious since there many single-post-bots around that try to sell stuff. In my eyes it wasn't rude at all. Critique yes, rude no. There is this template for reviews, not that it is something you have to do, but some things like weight, length, PoB etc are something we very much want to see, stuff that is variable or might not be described on the sellers page. sbg-sword-forum.forums.net/thread/18655/sword-buyers-guide-review-template
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Post by Vance Proctor on Jan 16, 2024 22:41:47 GMT
No problem I'm not a bother nor am I selling anything lol I'm no expert or pretend to be and I figured I would let those that are respected to give you a more comprehensive review. My review was just my experience and to maybe peak some interest because I am new and had never herd of the sword or Lancelot sword in general so I was just trying to be helpful so I apologize and Don't worry I won't be writing any reviews in the future.
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Post by madirish on Jan 17, 2024 18:28:04 GMT
Wow, that totally went sideways. MrStabby's comments were totally respectful and constructive! Nobody is telling you to go away! one of the stickies for this part of the forum is a template for reviews, that's what Stabby was suggesting. We are asking if you would consider fleshing out your review with that template and add'l technical info. Take a look through some of the other reviews and you'll get the gist.
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Post by metinemre on Jan 18, 2024 21:02:26 GMT
Same guy posts reviews everywhere for him. I smelled some marketing too.
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Post by mrstabby on Jan 18, 2024 21:33:35 GMT
I found the reviews on KoA, I would not have thought much, just a normal short review, they all read the same to me (although this and the KoA are pretty similar, I have done my share of copy-paste too). I like the ones with pictures though... But the sudden passive-agressiveness is weird to me. I mean neither of us asked for personal details.
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Post by metinemre on Jan 19, 2024 5:43:51 GMT
I found the reviews on KoA, I would not have thought much, just a normal short review, they all read the same to me (although this and the KoA are pretty similar, I have done my share of copy-paste too). I like the ones with pictures though... But the sudden passive-agressiveness is weird to me. I mean neither of us asked for personal details. I`m a bit conspiracy theory guy lol. Noone joins a forum to post a review about a sword they recently purchased, especially at the same time appearing in youtube comments and koa :) Usually people join to sell something or learn and read stuff and ask questions or market something even if not selling.
I traced the videos a little. He is there to comment first, most of the time. Here`s some screenshots. Similar arrogant, challenging attitude to other "real elite" makers. Comparing the product and having the courage to even challenge Motohora. On one side, industrial looks sword and the challenged side Motohara. If the price was let`s say $300 or less I`d maybe consider to buy one. But at $800+ come on. I`d rather buy a Motohara for $2k+ rather than spending $800+ for a sword made by KC. but then I`m also not elite either so maybe I don`t even deserve one lol.
Back to sword in review;
I`ve watched every video posted about this so far. I enjoy watching the videos, at least the ones on the roof but not the ones in front of the garbage bin, kinda makes me wanna throw up. Maybe sword is for the elite but not the garbage bin at the background.
$128, 9260 steel dragon sword/shadow dancer katana cutting video is more impressive for five times less the price with better looks.
Also I was at the Valley Of The Sun cutting tournament here in AZ where a version of this sword in review was tested. Most of the contestants were so skilled and experienced, they can cut a tatami clean with a sharpened crowbar there, yes it cuts very well but I found nothing special, attractive or interesting about the cutter for one to spend that much money.
Few hundred $ more gets you an Atrim, Albion or a complete beautiful package with scabbard from VA as well as very good looking and functional Dragon sword or a very pretty entry level Zsey, a 2nd hand beautiful Kaneie for less or even 2nd hand MAS katana/jingum. All these will cut pretty equal if your edge alignment and technique is correct and sword isn`t blunt. Some will cut hard targets very well some will do hard and soft.
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Post by mrstabby on Jan 19, 2024 9:27:17 GMT
Too enthusiastic makes it look suspicious, ey?
I am not sure you could find any new secrets to swords that the ancients didn't find out long ago while using them in combat. So I am always suspicious when something is advertised as "better than everything else". Been actually looking forward to a real review.
Having no negatives, I don't know. Even the swords I like the most have negative aspects in the end. I haven't found any sword that was "just right" as it came from the box.
It looks pretty plain, I agree, but that's not always bad, if it delivers something else. I found the "it's good for collectors" in the review a bit out of place, because it is rather plain and not a historical sword. Each to his/her own I guess.
I am interested what this training software is though. Is it like in the Matrix? "I know Kung-Fu" Joking aside, I'm interested to see what it can do, since I found such internet learning affairs to be lackluster in the past.
Since the cutters at the Valley Of The Sun cutting tournament were experienced, do you think it could make a difference if it were more inexperienced people? There are swords that are easier to cut with than others after all.
Having seen Lancelot touting it's unbound fighting potential, do you think it's a fighting sword or a pure tatami cutter? I mean the Cold Steel Hand-and-a-half is a god cutter, but it feels like I would be better off in a fight with a Hanwei/Tinker since I can move it so much more accurately. Also not a bad cutter either.
Don't want to knock down anyone/any sword, I am interested for real.
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Post by cptnvimes on Jan 19, 2024 16:02:37 GMT
I saw the video where Philip Martin cut with it. He did say it cuts well, that being said it would be interesting to see his angle: comparing it with an ATrim falchion for example. Does it cut better than that? If Philip Martin would say yes then I would take his word for it. I am not doubting that those swords cut well but an independednt comparison would be interesting.
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Post by blackjack on Jan 19, 2024 21:42:01 GMT
I saw the video where Philip Martin cut with it. He did say it cuts well, that being said it would be interesting to see his angle: comparing it with an ATrim falchion for example. Does it cut better than that? If Philip Martin would say yes then I would take his word for it. I am not doubting that those swords cut well but an independednt comparison would be interesting. My problem with Martin is that he can cut down a tree with a butter knife. The man is amazing. So amazing he double cuts with literally anything in his hand.
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Post by cptnvimes on Jan 19, 2024 23:22:24 GMT
"My problem with Martin is that he can cut down a tree with a butter knife. The man is amazing. So amazing he double cuts with literally anything in his hand." True, but he also did a LOT of cutting with a LOT of blades so he does have a good frame of reference on how the Supreme cutter stacks up against some oder good cutting blades.
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Post by miraculix101 on Jan 20, 2024 16:54:06 GMT
Well some stats of the sword, and material for blade, would be nice
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Post by Swordknives on Feb 6, 2024 22:17:56 GMT
"My problem with Martin is that he can cut down a tree with a butter knife. The man is amazing. So amazing he double cuts with literally anything in his hand." True, but he also did a LOT of cutting with a LOT of blades so he does have a good frame of reference on how the Supreme cutter stacks up against some oder good cutting blades. Phil is a really nice guy I dont think he has ever said in a public review that something is not a good cutter.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Feb 7, 2024 15:09:26 GMT
"My problem with Martin is that he can cut down a tree with a butter knife. The man is amazing. So amazing he double cuts with literally anything in his hand." True, but he also did a LOT of cutting with a LOT of blades so he does have a good frame of reference on how the Supreme cutter stacks up against some oder good cutting blades. Phil is a really nice guy I dont think he has ever said in a public review that something is not a good cutter. Perhaps, but let's not put words in his mouth (or even imply them).
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Post by Swordknives on Feb 7, 2024 18:56:44 GMT
Phil is a really nice guy I dont think he has ever said in a public review that something is not a good cutter. Perhaps, but let's not put words in his mouth (or even imply them). It was not my intention to put words in his mouth. My point was more to the effect that we should not base our final judgments on a sword from just one person, even if that one person is Phil.
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Post by cptnvimes on Feb 7, 2024 19:28:02 GMT
True that, I wasn't trying to start anything by dropping his name... Would be nice to see more independet reviews pitting the Supreme Cutter against some other great cutting swords and see where it stacks up. I do not doubt that it is indeed a good cutter, maybe even great... but is it the best?
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Post by crazyjons on Feb 7, 2024 20:12:49 GMT
It looks heavy.
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Post by curiomansion on Feb 7, 2024 22:15:00 GMT
Bizarre thread. Second overly sensitive, snide push for this brand. I actually think his swords look cool for what they are (modern interpretations), but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. OP does feel like a bot.
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