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Post by bwaze on Jan 16, 2024 13:31:46 GMT
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jan 17, 2024 3:24:23 GMT
Beautiful! But the hilt looks more the dimensions of a type I than H, and I wonder, how wide is the blade?
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Post by bwaze on Jan 17, 2024 9:19:35 GMT
I think these are exact measurements of my sword by In'Carius. It's actually 1,2 kg, not 1,1. I have to take photos and measurements some day...
Measurements:
Total length - 89cm Blade length - 73.5cm Blade width at base - 5.8cm Blade thickness from 5mm near guard to around 3mm near end of fullers Weight - 1204g Point of Balance - 13.5cm Edges - blunt Steel - high carbon spring steel 51CrV4
Scabbard is very simple - wooden core with linen inside and leather outside + leather belts.
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Post by bwaze on Jan 17, 2024 9:28:35 GMT
I must say I'm a bit sorry I didn't order the one with inlay on hilt! This one is a very light blunt, but it is a smaller sword: Next viking inspired sword is ready. Based on historical examples - it's a type H. Inlaid on pommel and guard made of silver sample 935. A lot of work but effect is quite pleasant Sword is blunt, made for reenactment figth. Soon will be in hands of new owner - Earl of reenactment group (https://www.facebook.com/UtgardGliwice) from Poland Measurements: Total lenght - 83cm Blade lenght - 67cm Blade width - 4,9cm Grip - 10,4cm Weight - 1020g Point of Balance - 12cm Edges - blunt 2mm Steel 51CrV4 Around 50-52HRC If You want support my work please like, comment or share Thanks! //Rafal
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jan 25, 2024 17:34:57 GMT
I would also mention something else I've been thinking about. In a battle, fighting in formations, I think it would be quite hard to simply 'get around' the wall of shields with a sword. It's probably more important to be able to break a shield or knock it out of the way. Super nimble and light swords are great for duels with no shields or with bucklers, but I don't necessarily think they're as good when thinking about battles between sides with large shields (but limited armor). And of course, the armor they had was largely proof against lighter cuts and thrusts, but wouldn't keep you from breaking bones if hit hard, so once again, heavy blows have an advantage here.
Plus, whether ultimately the best approach or not, there's the written evidence that the Norse of this time preferred heavy blows to nimble fighting on the whole.
That said, my new 1370 gram sword is so nimble, it feels like I'm whipping around a little twig. But a lot of the mass is in the hilt.
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 25, 2024 17:55:24 GMT
I admit that my experience of fighting in a shield wall was reading Cornwell's Saxon stories. I assume that in this situation you haven't the space for taking a swing for heavy blows. The Romans used short swords in such formations, poking, not swinging.
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jan 27, 2024 5:46:22 GMT
A related note that someone brought up to me is to consider rapiers. Despite popular claims that they were light swords, they often got up to much heavier weights, like 1300 grams.
But what's interesting is that although replicas are usually too light and too short compared to historical examples, they still don't feel as good in the hand, because they're not made right.
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Post by durinnmcfurren on Jan 27, 2024 5:53:23 GMT
I must say I'm a bit sorry I didn't order the one with inlay on hilt! This one is a very light blunt, but it is a smaller sword: Total lenght - 83cm Blade lenght - 67cm Blade width - 4,9cm Grip - 10,4cm Weight - 1020g That is a very tiny sword especially for a type H. And a long grip! Beautiful but an odd choice. To be honest I like the one you ordered a lot more. That one there is rather too small with too long a grip!
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Post by AndiTheBarvarian on Jan 27, 2024 6:14:29 GMT
A related note that someone brought up to me is to consider rapiers. Despite popular claims that they were light swords, they often got up to much heavier weights, like 1300 grams.
But what's interesting is that although replicas are usually too light and too short compared to historical examples, they still don't feel as good in the hand, because they're not made right.
Look here: myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=37332Most of them are in the weight area I prefer. Most rapier repros I know have a heavy hilt and a too light blade, esp. Windlass. The easy but wrong way to get a balance point near the hilt. My Hanwei Taza is different, it has a light hilt and more mass in the forte of the blade, excellent handling. I have no problem with 1300+ g rapiers, also with 1300+ g viking sword. My problem is that there are too few other models.
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Post by bwaze on Jan 27, 2024 6:20:09 GMT
I must say I'm a bit sorry I didn't order the one with inlay on hilt! This one is a very light blunt, but it is a smaller sword: Total lenght - 83cm Blade lenght - 67cm Blade width - 4,9cm Grip - 10,4cm Weight - 1020g That is a very tiny sword especially for a type H. And a long grip! Beautiful but an odd choice. To be honest I like the one you ordered a lot more. That one there is rather too small with too long a grip! Yes, I didn't mean the whole package, just the inlay option - many of the swords In'Carius Crafts makes are made to the specifics and wishes of customers, so some are quite odd pieces.
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