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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2009 23:01:26 GMT
the post above mentioned a jian of antique specs. if you do a search on you-tube for Qi Jian, you will see a vid about its origin and forging. this sword made by hanwei is from an actual restoration they did on an original Qi Jian. It is a piece of art.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 21:51:13 GMT
the post above mentioned a jian of antique specs. if you do a search on you-tube for Qi Jian, you will see a vid about its origin and forging. this sword made by hanwei is from an actual restoration they did on an original Qi Jian. It is a piece of art. Thats actually the one I was referring to. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2009 3:12:50 GMT
Yamabushi; i have a Pc practical tai chi an it is extremely sharp, but only the last 1/3 of the blade... that is the way it should be. the rest of it is still fairly sharp. apparently the earlier issues were not as some note that they were false-edged. as far as the qi jian... iam extremely interested in it as well, mostly for its historical orientation. look it up on youtube. I received an email from casiberia, and they say that it is extremely sharp for the last 2" of the blade. However i read a review that staetes the blade is dull for the first 1/3 then somewhat sharp for the 2nd 1/3 and sharp for the last 1/3. casiberia says that it is 1566 steel. SH2295- The Qi Jian is of monosteel (not folded) construction, forged from a single billet of 65Mn spring steel (Carbon 0.6~0.7%, Manganese 0.9~1.2%). The blade hardness is HRC51~53. The forging process is proprietary to Hanwei, our apologies on that. The Qi Jian may certainly be used for day-to-day practice and sparring but, as with any sword, blade-to-blade contact will result in blade marring for which we cannot be responsible. BLADE STEEL DESIGNATION: 65Mn U.S. EQUIVALENT: 1566 % CARBON: 0.62-0.7 QUENCHING: NITRATE EDGE OF BLADE: 48-52 HRC about 3/4 of inch from the tip of the sword it is razor sharp. This piece is designed primarily as a thrusting weapon - while it may work in light tameshigiri practice, I would not recommend it. this came from star hensley at cas iberia. i foud this about that steel on a web site about alloys... AISI 1566 is a high-carbon (nominally 0.66% carbon) steel containing 0.85-0.15% manganese. Its hardenability is low and on austenitizing and liquid quenching it develops a hard (martensitic) surface with a soft, ductile core. It can be used in the hot-rolled, annealed, normalized, cold-worked or liquid-quenched-and-tempered condition for a wide range of applications. It has good machinability and good workability. Its many uses include springs, shafts, hand tools, railway parts and agricultural machinery. however, my united black ikazuchi is hrc 58. the hrc rating is from a pdf download on united's website. www.trueswords.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ikazuchi&search_in_description=1&x=42&y=12 this is a place you can get one. united wants like 270 bucks. but www.trueswords.com has a way better price. the handle is bamboo pinned rayskin covered leather wrapped grip. the tang is considered full tang, but truly only somewhat over 3/4 tang. i spar w/ it alt and perform some fairly rigorous cutting. you might like it. its kinda cross between jian and katana. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 3:39:03 GMT
I have a practical tai chi sword.
Garbage. An expensive forms toy with crappy fittings...which eventually loosen and a crappy whippy blade.
Better to save your money and get a Huanuo monosteel jian or if you don't mind the extra weight the Cold Steel version of it.
If you are looking for a real weapon, the practical tai chi sword is not it.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 14:39:16 GMT
So I know nothing about tai chi swords but want one is this one any good??? Practical Tai Chi Sword any thoughts?  thanks:) YamabushiI own one and it is true that it is rather flexible. tho not as flexible as "wushu sword". I will do complete review later. I have sparred using against PC agincourt, and Musahi bamboo. Dont do it tho if you do not know th correct blocking techniques.I was successful in both contests. personally however, I am awaiting a JIN-SHI production jian. Garrett only had 12 left, as he is going into strictly custom models only. My PC practical tai chi is very sharp. but because of how thin the blade is, i wouldnt do extreme cutting with it. The QIJIAN from PC sounds good, butthe metal is a silicon alloy... 1566 steel. not my cup of tea, being an amateur metallurgist. Also it is hrc 48-50... not hard enough for extreme cutting. I understand that the jin-shi swords are better, well balanced and light to handle (1.45 pounds) and hrc 57. weight would vary according to what you order, tho. |
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Post by shadowhowler on May 31, 2009 17:29:05 GMT
I had a Practical Thi Chi Sword awhile back... id didn't cost much, less the 100 dollars and it was nice enough for the pricepoint.
I wouldnt cut anything with it tho... it was a VERY thin blade and did not feel overly sturdy... some light thrusting and tip cutting is about all I would have tried with it... but I never did even that, ended up selling it.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2009 19:59:00 GMT
I'll save up for another custom order from Garrett when I am ready for a combat worthy Jian. Right now I'm still saving up for the Dao I wanted.
I had the chance to check out both the practical tai chi and Adam Hsu blades the other day at a local Martial Arts supply store, on my way home from work (don't tell my wife that's why I was late, LOL). I really wasn't impressed with either, I'll stick to my $9.99 hunk of wood until I have the money for something better. I just wish there were a few more makers of Chinese production weapons out there almost all every website I look at has are Hanwei, and Dragon Well.
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Post by sicheah on Jun 1, 2009 5:42:15 GMT
I'll save up for another custom order from Garrett when I am ready for a combat worthy Jian. Right now I'm still saving up for the Dao I wanted. I had the chance to check out both the practical tai chi and Adam Hsu blades the other day at a local Martial Arts supply store, on my way home from work (don't tell my wife that's why I was late, LOL). I really wasn't impressed with either, I'll stick to my $9.99 hunk of wood until I have the money for something better. I just wish there were a few more makers of Chinese production weapons out there almost all every website I look at has are Hanwei, and Dragon Well. That is true, I bought the Adam-Hsu thinking it was battle ready from KOA and I wasn't impress at all (I return it the next day). Sure it is well made and has great handling but the blade is so small and light even my $30 SLO feels more like a real sword than an Adam-Hsu. For $150 I personally save up some money to get a jin-shi blade (and have it unsharpened for practice). Unfortunately the market for Chinese weapon is not as large as Japanese Katana and European swords. Otherwise there will be more competitors producing Chinese weapon and consumers like us benefit from lower price and greater variety. I heard rumors that Scott Rondell is discussing with Hanwei to actually make cutting jians. Anyone knows the release date? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 11:23:37 GMT
I heard rumors that Scott Rondell is discussing with Hanwei to actually make cutting jians. Anyone knows the release date? I've heard that rumor also, but haven't heard any specific information on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2009 3:02:05 GMT
about the qi jian... i have a misprint... 5166 steel. i apologize, but i wish i could use a keyboard as well as my sword... darn. any way does anyone have any experience with using that type of steel in a sword for use. i have never tried one. but i do know that we used to use silicon additives in casting iron for flow ability, and add a little copper for ductility. cannot picture that making for a good sword. but doggone it, the qijian just looks so darn cool, i would almost pass on my prejudice of metallurgical issues to try one. any notions here?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2009 8:42:28 GMT
It would make one really nice wall hanger. And the balance point is only supposed to be 1.5" from the hilt so it should handle like a decent knife. But Hanwei does NOT recommend it for cutting, at all.
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thanks:) Yamabushi
