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I like viking/migration era swords
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Post by stormmaster on Jan 31, 2021 20:42:45 GMT
wow their selection is vast
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Post by airborne on Jan 31, 2021 20:52:45 GMT
Or alternatively what do you think about just having the shashka fit in the scabbard as far as the bolster only ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 21:03:54 GMT
Or alternatively what do you think about just having the shashka fit in the scabbard as far as the bolster only ? That certainly works, and 20th century shashka were made this way. I just happen to prefer the older style.
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Post by airborne on Jan 31, 2021 21:07:29 GMT
This has me thinking now as to how good a job Purna could do , just a little concerned if he could do a decent full distal taper
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 21:37:53 GMT
This has me thinking now as to how good a job Purna could do , just a little concerned if he could do a decent full distal taper Well, if you want reference photos to give him, I have tons of them. He is capable of making saber blades, but his purview is Asian or Oriental. His scimitars and shamshirs are fantastic by all accounts, so he can definitely do this. It just needs to be impressed on him that the tip is thin. If he can make a yataghan, he can make a shashka!
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Post by airborne on Feb 1, 2021 17:05:16 GMT
Thanks for advice Lebleuchevalier
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 18:26:54 GMT
Thanks for advice Lebleuchevalier I was pondering this thread last night and I did more research. I found a flow chart for the evolution of the shashka that someone made on another forum (I cannot recall who made the chart, so if that person finds their chart here, please let me know so I can provide attribution).
What I find intriguing about this chart is that the shashka is characterized as a "guardless saber." This is not incorrect, but I certainly wouldn't categorize a katana or dao that way. We could lump the dao, katana, da, shashka, shamshir, scimitar, kilij and others within the curved swords family. What I do appreciate about this chart is that different cultures of the Orient and Central Asia appeared to have adapted the shashka throughout the nineteenth century. I assume this came about mostly due to the rise of Russia as a major imperial power, but I am positive there are numerous other reasons.
Here is an example from Uzbekistan.
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Post by airborne on Feb 1, 2021 18:35:43 GMT
Interesting and nice piece of research Lebleuchevalier
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Post by airborne on Feb 1, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
Ive often wondered why the handle shape on the Shashkas are very minimilistic (which I quite like ). Now there might be a definite answer to this , but after viewing your previous information as part of this thread regarding the history of the Caucassian shashka and the actual dress of indigenous Caucasians and Russian Cossacks , ie the thick wool Chokha jackets etc , would it not make sense to have that style of handle rather than a European style hilt that might just get caught up in their clothing when actually drawing the shashka ! JUST A THOUGHT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 19:20:19 GMT
I've never thought of that before, but it is a very practical reason. I am sure there are many reasons why the hilt developed this way. If the swords were originally agricultural tools, it makes sense. Some early Chinese dao were made like this, possibly for ease of use, ease of manufacture, and because they were used in tandem with a shield. It's a fascinating subject to think about.
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