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Post by Timo Nieminen on Aug 4, 2019 7:40:49 GMT
Were such weapons used historically? I've seen similar designs in Kung Fu movies and video games, but I'm not sure if that's an authentic Chinese style of weapon or just fantasy embellishment. They weren't common, assuming you mean mounted on long hafts. I've only seen photos of three examples, one with a smooth sleeve, one with a knobbed sleeve, and one ball-headed:  Some similar things from outside China, such as this possible candidate from ancient Mesopotamia: www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_details.aspx?objectId=3024914&partId=1The was also the shu (殳), a mace-spear: zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/32598999The Song and Ming military manuals show various two-handed mace-like things, like the Wolf's tooth club, two-handed maces with large heads, and more. At least some of these were only ceremonial weapons. But the ancient ge typically had a heavy butt, and some ancient Chinese spears had heavy butts too, so if the haft broke near the head, what was left would be a two-handed mace (and similar for many other polearms, including many non-Chinese). |
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Aug 21, 2019 0:15:39 GMT
The mace heads arrived. They are exactly as nice as I have come to expect from Tod Cutler products.  The 6 foot octagonal hickory staff should arrive from Purpleheart Armoury tomorrow. I plan to burn some designs into the wood, paint it, and add some gold leaf. |
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Post by christain on Aug 21, 2019 0:22:39 GMT
That sounds awesome! I'll be keeping an eye on this!  Gold leaf can make anything look cool!  .....  |
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 24, 2019 0:28:25 GMT
Another way to go for (especially longer, heavier) quarterstaffs is to look for (ash wood) ballet bars. Where does one find ballet bars? I been looking for something to make a quarter staff with forever and can't find anything |
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Post by christain on Aug 24, 2019 2:54:57 GMT
Another way to go for (especially longer, heavier) quarterstaffs is to look for (ash wood) ballet bars. Where does one find ballet bars? I been looking for something to make a quarter staff with forever and can't find anything AMAZON!!! They have everything! Whether you need it or not!---- -----  |
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Post by christain on Aug 24, 2019 2:58:01 GMT
Seriously, there's a whole discussion going on about 'Spear Shaft Diameter' in the 'General Discussions' segment. Lots of links an helpful info. |
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 24, 2019 3:13:11 GMT
Where does one find ballet bars? I been looking for something to make a quarter staff with forever and can't find anything AMAZON!!! They have everything! Whether you need it or not!---- ----- I have a hard time justifying 50$ shipping fee and an 80$ customs fee 😂 I would rather get a thicc plank of wood and make one, but even then, that's a bit more labour intensive than I want ... I could use my kukri machete like a bark scraper and possible whittle it down... Now that I think about it 🤔 |
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Post by christain on Aug 24, 2019 3:34:44 GMT
I encountered the same situation at a lumber-yard close to me. "We ain't got not no nary none o' them round poles, but we's got's them square'un's!"----"Thank you, Sir. I have a draw-knife. I can MAKE IT ROUND!"----------- Still looking myself. Everything I've found locally is CRAP.  |
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 24, 2019 3:49:58 GMT
I encountered the same situation at a lumber-yard close to me. "We ain't got not no nary none o' them round poles, but we's got's them square'un's!"----"Thank you, Sir. I have a draw-knife. I can MAKE IT ROUND!"----------- Still looking myself. Everything I've found locally is CRAP. Yea the closest I've found is a broom stick. Which is way too small and thin Might make a nice war dart/fetched javelin though once i get it a pointy spear butt cap and some feathers. Apparently those were usually make of pine anyway, and if it breaks during practice, then it's the cheapest thing in the world to replace 😂 |
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Post by markus313 on Aug 24, 2019 6:41:50 GMT
Another way to go for (especially longer, heavier) quarterstaffs is to look for (ash wood) ballet bars. Where does one find ballet bars? I been looking for something to make a quarter staff with forever and can't find anything Here in Germany, they can be ordered from online sports stores. |
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Post by Ifrit on Aug 24, 2019 6:43:17 GMT
Where does one find ballet bars? I been looking for something to make a quarter staff with forever and can't find anything I ordered mine from an online sports store here in Germany. Are they normally 200$? |
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Post by markus313 on Aug 24, 2019 6:47:19 GMT
I ordered mine from an online sports store here in Germany. Are they normally 200$? I think I paid 70 Euro (around 80 USD) for my 8 ft, 1,575 in diameter staff. |
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Nov 1, 2019 21:48:31 GMT
Here are some photos of my finished Monkey King inspired staff. It is 6 feet of hickory with an octagonal cross section. The business ends are capped with bronze mace heads from the Tod Cutler store. Since the myths of Sun Wukong are rooted in both of the Chinese traditions of Taoism and Buddhism, I've incorporated the eight trigrams of the Bagua as a nod to Taoism. The trigrams are incised into the eight sides of the staff in a spiral pattern and decorated with gold leaf surrounded by a black square (the two sets of eight symbols radiate from the stave's center towards the ends). Just below each mace head is a leather wrap over cotton cord, and each of those artificially aged/weathered leather wraps has been laser etched with two different Buddhist sutras (the heart and diamond sutras to be exact).    |
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Post by christain on Nov 1, 2019 23:40:09 GMT
That's totally bad-ass, zen. Almost exactly the way I was picturing in my mind. Good job! |
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Post by Paul Muad’Dib on Nov 2, 2019 2:34:29 GMT
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Post by legacyofthesword on Nov 2, 2019 3:15:23 GMT
Here are some photos of my finished Monkey King inspired staff. It is 6 feet of hickory with an octagonal cross section. The business ends are capped with bronze mace heads from the Tod Cutler store. Since the myths of Sun Wukong are rooted in both of the Chinese traditions of Taoism and Buddhism, I've incorporated the eight trigrams of the Bagua as a nod to Taoism. The trigrams are incised into the eight sides of the staff in a spiral pattern and decorated with gold leaf surrounded by a black square (the two sets of eight symbols radiate from the stave's center towards the ends). Just below each mace head is a leather wrap over cotton cord, and each of those artificially aged/weathered leather wraps has been laser etched with two different Buddhist sutras (the heart and diamond sutras to be exact).
That's awesome. Seriously, that's one of the coolest weapon builds I've ever seen on this forum. Looks like it came right out of a kung fu film. Damn.
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Post by markus313 on Nov 2, 2019 9:25:22 GMT
Here are some photos of my finished Monkey King inspired staff. It is 6 feet of hickory with an octagonal cross section. Good Lord, that’s awesome! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 21:23:30 GMT
I love it. I need one now haha
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Post by legacyofthesword on Nov 2, 2019 23:59:09 GMT
Zen, I'd love to see your entire weapons collection. You've got really unique and interesting taste.
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Nov 3, 2019 3:08:58 GMT
Zen, I'd love to see your entire weapons collection. You've got really unique and interesting taste. Thank you. I'll try to take some photos and write something up before long. I admittedly have widespread and eclectic tastes in quite a few different subjects. |
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