Post by brotherbanzai on May 26, 2019 16:45:05 GMT
This Principe was sent to me for re-hilting. The tang was extended slightly and reshaped to accommodate the new pommel (the existing tang end was very thin and wide to fit the stock pommel, not appropriate for this pommel). Other than that change to the tang, the blade was left unchanged. The pommel is keyed and hot peened to the tang and the guard is banzaipeened to the tang.
These hilt parts are a further foray into me designing sword pieces using a 3d sculpting program and then printing out the models on my 3d printer to be molded (same as I do for traditionally sculpted pieces), cast in wax, and then shelled and cast in bronze. I'm finding that I really like the ability to get much closer to having parts be perfectly symmetrical in a way that was a real pain when hand sculpting. Additionally, the ability to zoom in to work on detailed areas has been much less of a strain on my eyes.
This is also my second go at a half wire wrap. four wires in total; one pair of brass and copper twisted clockwise and a second pair twisted widdershins, laid next to each other. Some more development in my hand made little bronze nails to hold the wire down too.
Close up of the pierced pommel.
And the half wire wrap.
The two different metals in the wire wrap show up quite noticeably in person, but don't seem to show up well when I try to photograph them. This picture is slightly better...
Post by brotherbanzai on May 27, 2019 16:15:57 GMT
Thank you pellius
Thanks john1 Drawing it out would only work if there were enough metal there to begin with, which isn't usually the case. Also, this particular tang needed to be thicker, as the original tang was only 1/8" thick; it was wide but thin and I needed it the other way around for this pommel. Below is a picture of the tang extension being held on top of the original tang to demonstrate this.
I slot and key the tang and extension so that the larger part of the weld is in line with the tang rather than across it, as seen here in this previous Albion tang extension I did.
The sword is clamed onto my heavy steel table with a large block of steel pressed onto the shoulder, before the blade. This acts as a heat sink to prevent the heat of welding from reaching the shoulder or blade, which would damage the temper. Shown here on the prototype Seraph sword.
I weld the extension to the tang using a steel filler rod and a tig welder, first one side and then the other. Sometimes with a deep pass on each side and then a shallow pass on each side to achieve full penetration of the relatively narrow weld bead, depends on the tang and extension shape. Once the weld is done and cooled, I remove the blade from the table and clamp it a bench vice in a similar heat sink setup and then re-heat the weld area with an oxy/acetylene torch to remove stress from the weld area. Once cooled it's removed and ground to final shape. Here are some other recent extensions shown first before and then after.
And lastly, here is this particular sword after the extension was welded in, with the old end of the tang sitting next to it.
I believe that this method, or something much like it, is about the only way to lengthen a tang without adversely affecting the durability of the sword.
Thank you very much Madmartigen
The stats on this sword are probably not too different form the original Principe, a little bit longer with the POB slightly closer to the grip I'd imagine. Overall length - 47.5" Blade length - 34 1/8" Cross width - 9.75" Grip length - 10" POB - 2.75" from the grip Weight - 3 pounds 13-ish ounces
It's very amazing you can extend the tang like this. Since I always worry that my peened hilts and fittings will get damaged (they already did) and need to be re-peened in future (not currently to that degree yet), resulting in shortening the hilt. Your skill and service makes retaining the hilt length possible by putting a bit more material on it before re-peening!
Post by theophilus736 on May 10, 2020 19:19:38 GMT
Half inch change in POB so not crazy but still nice. I'm sure it feels lighter in hand with the balance being a bit further back. That with the incredible hilt furniture and this is a pretty cool piece.
Only wish is that Albions blades were a bit wider.
Post by brotherbanzai on May 18, 2020 17:21:38 GMT
Thank you darachsolais.
Thanks theophilus736. I can't personally speak to any change in handling as I only got handle it as a bare blade before putting on the new hilt. I wish they made longer tangs, they always feel to short to me.
Thanks very much ThomasW, glad you appreciate the explanations.
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