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Post by howler on Jan 19, 2021 21:29:53 GMT
Arsenal indeed.  Top tier collection. |
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Jan 19, 2021 21:59:50 GMT
I'd imagine upkeep is a constant...
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Post by pellius on Jan 20, 2021 1:50:32 GMT
Outstanding!
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Post by bas on Jul 18, 2021 22:00:50 GMT
Thank you for sharing your library and collection with us! Truly spectacular.
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Post by snubnoze on Jul 25, 2021 21:25:46 GMT
Insane collection, like a museum display. No wonder you are so knowledgeable. I love how clean everything is, preserving history for future generations.
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Post by Pino on Jul 26, 2021 11:35:16 GMT
Many thanks guys!
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Post by pgandy on Jul 26, 2021 13:00:21 GMT
That’s mind boggling. WOW!
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Post by richardr on Jul 26, 2021 15:05:56 GMT
Hi Pino, My research into the history of a special sabre (see pictures attached) has produced more questions than answers. Especially the mount has given me a headache. My initial conclusions based on my research into this sabre left me with a headache. At first glance, the mounting and decoration of this sabre spontaneously reminds me of 19th century Austro-Hungarian examples (see link). www.waffensammlung-beck.ch/waffe208.htmlBased on the scabbard shape, I would not have dated the scabbard earlier than the very late 18th century, but rather to the beginning of the 19th century. But on the other hand, this sabre has been dated before 1797. If this sabre is really to be dated before Napoleon's Egyptian campaign, no respective influence can have taken place. I have not yet been able to find a comparable one piece grip in the shape of a lion's head with fur, combined with a snake as a knuckle bow and quillion dating before the 19th century. The search for a scabbard with a comparable pattern has also been unsuccessful so far. The Lloyds Patriotic Fund presentation sabres also feature lion heads and skins as well as snakes, but have distinctly different hilt characteristics and do not pre-date 1803. The shape of the blade is also clearly different. Among others, I went through the following books. - Les armes blanches militaires françaises (Christian Aries & Michel Pétard) - Des sabres et des épées Vol 1-3 (Michel Pétard) - Les Sabres Portés par l'Armée Française (Jean L'Hoste; Patrick Resek) - Armes Blanches Symbolisme, Inscriptions, Marquages, Fourbisseurs, Manufactures (Jean Hoste & JJ. Buigne) Unfortunately, I do not have access to Christian Blondiau's "Sabres français, 1680-1814". I have discovered your great collection of books and would be grateful for your possible help. - To which period would you intuitively date this sabre based on the mountings ? - Have you seen comparable mountings? If so, which ones? - Could you look in Christian Blondiau's "Sabres français, 1680-1814" to see if you can find a comparable mounting and pattern? Kind regards, Richard P.S. I would like to apologise for my English and hope that it is understandable enough. |
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Post by Pino on Jul 31, 2021 2:43:04 GMT
Hello Richard, can I ask if you have that sword in your possession? I ask because there is supposedly one similar sword which is labeled as Bonaparte's sword worn at Arcole, but it is located in the Malmaison museum. Seems to be the same in style and form. |
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Post by richardr on Jul 31, 2021 16:15:45 GMT
Hello Pino
Unfortunately, this sabre is not in my possession. Your hint is absolutely correct. It is indeed Bonaparte's sabre, which he is supposed to have carried in the Battle of Arcole.
However, for my research on the history of this sabre and my thesis, it is essential that this historical attribution is not taken into account in the evaluation (classification, place of manufacture, dating, etc.). Otherwise, an open-minded assessment is at risk. For this reason I have deliberately omitted the attribution.
The mountings as well as the decoration of this sabre seem to differ from French sabre mountings from the time until the beginning of the French Directory. This leads to the question whether comparable mounts and decorations are known for the period around 1795.
I would be very grateful for any information, sources and opinions that could help me in this regard.
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Post by Pino on Aug 8, 2021 21:23:33 GMT
Hello Richard, that it would be Bonaparte's very own sabre needs to be backed with a lot of proof and I hope the museum that owns it can prove such a boast since there is another one with the same mention; that one probably a captured Austrian sword judging by the looks of it. Another link here. It is my understanding that the man carried a couple of different swords while in Italy as was the case with so many other high ranked generals so both could have belonged to him however there is very little information about it except the pictures you provided. I agree the style is not French even if private purchase models existed in many forms but the French ''flavour'' is absent except for the scabbard, my guess is it could also be a sabre either captured from Austrian or (a bit more likely) Italian officers or copying some of their style. |
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Post by theophilus736 on Oct 15, 2021 4:02:04 GMT
What in the world do you do for a living??
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Post by treeslicer on Oct 15, 2021 4:23:53 GMT
You don't have a sword collection, you have a home museum. Completely awesome, thanks for sharing the photos.
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Top tier collection.
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