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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 21, 2017 1:27:11 GMT
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stormmaster
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Post by stormmaster on Sept 21, 2017 1:42:43 GMT
i like the dragon king miao dao, only issue is they dont say how heavy it is and i dont like swords of might cause i ordered from the once and they said they had something in stock, 2 weeks later i asked where my order was and they said it was out of stock, and they didnt refund me till i asked
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Sept 21, 2017 5:26:30 GMT
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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 21, 2017 23:07:24 GMT
Oooh, that odachi looks nice! But 13 pounds?! I hope that's a typo. What company is it made by?
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Post by randomnobody on Sept 21, 2017 23:14:33 GMT
Problem with weight online is some stores list the "shipping weight" rather than the actual item weight. Larger packages carry a premium so they're basically charged extra weight, so listing the "shipping weight" helps people estimate delivery costs before buying.
I highly doubt that sword weighs more than five pounds, if that.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 21, 2017 23:26:35 GMT
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Post by Faldarin on Sept 21, 2017 23:29:59 GMT
Those have caught my eye before from SwordNArmory, but... phew. Kind of scary to not know where it's coming from at that size. I too am curious about the actual sword weight... but you don't have many choices when it comes to odachi as of late. Probably the shipping forced a lot of sellers out of the market.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Sept 21, 2017 23:47:29 GMT
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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 22, 2017 0:40:33 GMT
Well heck - that Musashi's in stock, and looks almost exactly like the unknown odachi we were just discussing.... hmm....
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Post by Faldarin on Sept 22, 2017 1:21:49 GMT
Oh hey. Yeah, that looks like it. I think that's the only option I've really seen available anywhere for an odac hi though. Someday, if I could figure out an adequate display for it, maybe...
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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 22, 2017 2:16:46 GMT
Oh hey. Yeah, that looks like it. I think that's the only option I've really seen available anywhere for an odac hi though. Someday, if I could figure out an adequate display for it, maybe... I think I'll go for it. I don't display any of my swords, I just pile them up where ever there's space in my tiny room (usually between teetering towers of books).
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Post by legacyofthesword on Sept 23, 2017 2:52:20 GMT
Alright, went ahead and bought it today. Trueswords had a 25% discount going on, so my final price was $229. Not bad! Pretty excited about this one....
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Post by zabazagobo on Sept 23, 2017 4:57:41 GMT
Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I've been shopping around for odachi for a while now, and this one has always been in the back of my mind
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Post by kristian on Sept 23, 2017 20:40:54 GMT
Katanasforsale offer both nodachi and nagamaki, along with custom options. I have never heard of this vendor before so I'm not sure how reputable they are. If anyone wants to take the plunge, it would be nice to know how it goes. katanasforsale.com/product-category/nagamaki-for-sale/
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Post by legacyofthesword on Oct 7, 2017 6:37:26 GMT
Got the sword yesterday, will post my impressions tomorrow hopefully (provided I have time). Basic rundown: it's got a flaw or two, but I really like it!
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Post by legacyofthesword on Oct 8, 2017 22:04:40 GMT
Okay, here's a quick rundown of my impressions of the Musashi Odachi (found here: www.trueswords.com/musashi-battle-ready-66in-odachi-sword-extras-p-4585.html ): Fit and Finish: 3 stars out of 5 Everything on the sword is rock solid. No wiggles, shifting parts, or rattles. I think most of the parts are glued. The diamonds formed by the tsukamaki (handle wrap) are a little uneven, and you can see a little wood on the edges of some of them. The ito (wrap) itself is some kind of cotton, which is very snugly wrapped. Gives a very good grip. There's a bit of a gap between the kashira (pommel) and the makidome (wrap knot) on one side, so you can see a little wood there too. All the fittings are, I assume, some kind of bronze alloy. They are nicely done, no pitting such as you sometimes see on other cast fittings. The theme of the fittings seems to be some kind of... anchor maybe? Whatever they are, they are distinct and cleanly cast. The blade itself is nicely polished, with some very faint areas that aren't as well polished as the rest. You have to look pretty close to tell. The fake hamon (temper line) is actually really nicely done. I honestly can't tell it from a real hamon. The blade is nicely shaped and ground, but if you hold it out and look down the mune (spine), you can see on one side that the blade is... "dented" I guess, for lack of a better word. The blade is perfectly straight, but there is a sort of wave to it on one side - it looks like someone got a little too enthusiastic with the power hammer or something. It doesn't look like it'll cause any structural issues, and you can't see it just swinging the blade around or looking at it - you have to look down the mune in the right light to see it. The saya (sheath) has no flaws at all, the koiguchi (scabbard throat) and kojiri (chape) look like real buffalo horn. Paint is glossy and even, and the sageo is nicely tied. The blade rattles a little at the end if you shake it, but it's not noticeable with a blade this long. The blade fits so well into the sheath that is won't fall out even if I turn the sword upside down and shake it up and down. In fact, it's a bit of an effort to pull it out normally - I've found that grabbing the saya near the throat and pushing my thumb against the tsuba (hand-guard) pops it out easily and quickly. Handling and Construction: 5 out of 5 stars The handling on this sword is just amazing. I know it's a cliche, but the term "feels like an extension of the body" actually applies in this case. It's even possible to use the sword one handed without too much effort. Keep in mind, I am 6' 2", so maybe shorter people might find the sword handles differently. The tsuba fits great in my hands, not too short, but not so long that it gets in the way when swinging it around. The blade does not droop when I hold it out sideways, but it does "wobble" fairly significantly when I slap the tsuka (handle). That's to be expected with a blade this long, and I think it shows a good temper. The blade doesn't feel whippy at all, nor do I feel it wobble when I swing it around. As far as sharpness goes, there is no secondary bevel, and it feels... well, sharp. I didn't try to cut paper or anything, but I did cut a milk jug, which I will go into more with.... Cutting: 5 out of 5 stars Please keep in mind that I only cut one water-filled milk jug (1 gallon size). However, for that one milk jug, the sword preformed excellently. It sliced off rings of plastic from the top down without even knocking the slices off (they just fell straight down). I cut with the part of the blade closer to the kissaki (tip), and with the part closer to the tsuba (hand-guard). In Conclusion:
Great sword, and for the price I couldn't be happier. Very, very functional, with a few fit and finish flaws that in no way detract from the overall beauty of the sword. I recommend this sword wholeheartedly.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 9, 2017 0:15:38 GMT
The blade does not droop when I hold it out sideways, but it does "wobble" fairly significantly when I slap the tsuka (handle). That's to be expected with a blade this long, and I think it shows a good temper. Why "good temper"? Unless it wobbles so far you'd expect it to take a set or break, you're not going to see any difference.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Oct 9, 2017 1:13:12 GMT
The blade does not droop when I hold it out sideways, but it does "wobble" fairly significantly when I slap the tsuka (handle). That's to be expected with a blade this long, and I think it shows a good temper. Why "good temper"? Unless it wobbles so far you'd expect it to take a set or break, you're not going to see any difference. "See any difference"...? Sorry, I don't follow. Do you mean that I won't be able to see the difference between a good temper or a bad one by the amount of flex? If so, then yeah, you're probably right. I guess I just assumed flex = good temper.
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Post by Timo Nieminen on Oct 9, 2017 1:38:34 GMT
The elastic modulus (Young's modulus) of the steel doesn't change significantly with heat treatment (and is mostly independent of the alloy as well (and long as it's still steel); you'll get less than 10% variation going from mild steel to high carbon steel to stainless steels with only 70% iron in them). So, with a given force, how far it bends only depends on the geometry of the blade (mostly, on the thickness).
The heat treatment and alloy affect how far it can bend before it fails, and how it fails (takes a set (plastic deformation) or breaks (fracture)). If you don't flex it far enough so that it would fail if the heat treatment was bad, you don't learn anything about the heat treatment.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Oct 9, 2017 2:05:26 GMT
Okay, thanks for the info.
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