Uhlan
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Post by Uhlan on May 9, 2020 9:18:25 GMT
Ren Wax is excellent I think.
Not cheap, but it does not contain acids and other stuff that may get to nibble at your precious sabres, grips, ivory, leather, you name it.
Good stuff has a price and I gladly pay for this product. I've been using it for years now.
If the conservation community and that is a pretty picky bunch of professionals, swears by Ren Wax it's good enough for me. The results speak for them selves. Never had any problems with blades and the like I used it on.
Cheers.
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on May 9, 2020 16:10:16 GMT
Ren Wax...considering how little you use, a can might last you a decade...
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Post by bas on May 26, 2021 10:57:43 GMT
Uhlan, I've sent you a message on a sabre that's coming my way, would you mind having a look?
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Post by MichaelRS on Apr 27, 2022 20:45:48 GMT
Nothing I want to do, but I found the process and explanation VERY interesting. 👍
Thanks for the post.
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Post by althesmith on Nov 1, 2022 0:06:28 GMT
Really first-rate tutorial but as a smith I'm wondering why, after the twisting, you don't anneal the twisted wire? Twisting in my experience really work-hardens the wire up and makes it springy as all hell, and I would think this would make it more difficult to get a really tight wrap. Just my .027 bucks worth (adjusted for inflation.).
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Post by Uhlan on Nov 1, 2022 5:54:22 GMT
Thanks for comment. Annealing wire was done but not the standard as far as I can see.
Some do it, some don't. For fine (Officers) wire I would not recommend it as this kinks already very easy.
For wire for say troopers sabres, which is often quite thick, one could do it, but again, the wire will kink very easy when soft.
I guess most people do the job with the grip in situ, so with every turn one has to work the wire through the narrow space between the grip and the knuckle bow. Easier said then done with a length of wire of anywhere between 150 and 210 cm and with one hand locking the wire to the grip. Better having some spring then as this prevents kinks a bit. The situation is slightly better when one has only the grip to worrie about. Then one could consider annealing. More freedom of movement. But still I would not do it.
There may be the problem of the wire looking wobbly as it bends so easely.
Wire channels in grips are never perfect and springy wire hides those imperfections a bit.
I think this is something one has to work out oneself in the end.
Cheers.
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Post by treeslicer on Nov 1, 2022 6:06:59 GMT
Thanks for comment. Annealing wire was done but not the standard as far as I can see. Some do it, some don't. For fine (Officers) wire I would not recommend it as this kinks already very easy. For wire for say troopers sabres, which is often quite thick, one could do it, but again, the wire will kink very easy when soft. I guess most people do the job with the grip in situ, so with every turn one has to work the wire through the narrow space between the grip and the knuckle bow. Easier said then done with a length of wire of anywhere between 150 and 210 cm and with one hand locking the wire to the grip. Better having some spring then as this prevents kinks a bit. The situation is slightly better when one has only the grip to worrie about. Then one could consider annealing. More freedom of movement. But still I would not do it. There may be the problem of the wire looking wobbly as it bends so easely. Wire channels in grips are never perfect and springy wire hides those imperfections a bit. I think this is something one has to work out oneself in the end. Cheers. Just curious, has anyone tried stainless aircraft safety wire for this? The tools should make it easier, too.
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Post by Uhlan on Nov 1, 2022 7:15:00 GMT
Interesting idea.
I once tried wire, also double, one uses to hang paintings with.
Looks like it may be the same stuff. Springy as hell it was.
Think they use it for bicycle hand brakes too.
Would look nice on a medieval or Renaissance sword grip I guess. Like silver.
Problem with the more modern military trooper designs is those were mostly wired with brass.
Officers wire was sometimes real silver or silver/gold plated brass.
You maybe could use it on an Officers grip if you can get it thin enough.
Maybe even on an Epee or Degen grip.
Then again, silver wire, plated brass or the real deal, is not very expensive and has the better looks in my opinion.
But doing experiments with assorted new materials for grip enhancement can lead to interesting results I think.
Cheers.
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