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Post by Croccifixio on Nov 11, 2016 11:18:13 GMT
Very stressed here, turfed the older son out of home (18), no holiday for 15 years or more, and lots of other reasons, saving up for a couple of weeks next year in New Zealand, hopefully. Holiday suggestions are welcome. Boracay, Palawan, or Bohol Island in the Philippines if you want beauty of nature and the best beaches in the world. Palawan especially since you have the underground river there.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Nov 11, 2016 11:22:54 GMT
Very stressed here, turfed the older son out of home (18), no holiday for 15 years or more, and lots of other reasons, saving up for a couple of weeks next year in New Zealand, hopefully. Holiday suggestions are welcome. Boracay, Palawan, or Bohol Island in the Philippines if you want beauty of nature and the best beaches in the world. Palawan especially since you have the underground river there. Very limited budget - so thinking of New Zealand - off peak flights can be less than $400 return - NZ also means no Visa needed, saves more money
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Post by Croccifixio on Nov 11, 2016 11:33:46 GMT
Ah. Well I don't really know how expensive flights to the PH are, but cost of decent hotels/resorts plus food and living are extremely low compared to other places (I know, cause I go on vacation in those other places hahaha). Still, understandable given location! NZ is in my 5 year travel plan for sure.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Nov 11, 2016 11:38:32 GMT
Boracay, Palawan, or Bohol Island in the Philippines if you want beauty of nature and the best beaches in the world. Palawan especially since you have the underground river there. Very limited budget - so thinking of New Zealand - off peak flights can be less than $400 return - NZ also means no Visa needed, saves more money Flights to Palawan - $1100++
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Post by Zen_Hydra on Nov 11, 2016 15:08:32 GMT
How is everyone else doing?
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Post by brotherbanzai on Nov 11, 2016 19:42:13 GMT
My wife and I have been feeling pretty stressed over recent events. Actually, she’s been stressed and I’ve been more just disappointed in people in general. We’ve talked about it and the one thing I hang on to is that we are all more alike than we are different. Many of those at the top tend to exploit our differences and wedge us onto different groups until we are unable to relate to people on the “other” side of issues.
Then my wife came up with what I think is a very good plan to help with not only how she was feeling, but maybe the world in general. Here is the gist of it:
Find someone you know who is on the opposite side of things from yourself. Then ask them, “what do you like about your person/position/whatever. No comparisons, not why do you like them/it over the other person/position, not what you don’t like about the other person/position, just why do you like your person/position. The idea is not to debate, because you aren’t going to convince someone to change their belief. The idea is not to correct misinformation, just to listen. The idea is just to realize that we have common ground. Often, more than we realize.
Maybe they’ll want to hear what you like about your person/position. You can tell them, but again, don’t compare and contrast. Just tell them what you like. Maybe you’ll find that you can respect their thoughts and that they can respect yours.
She’s planning on starting a podcast or something to get the idea out there (People not Parties). It will just be her interviewing people on the other side using the above stated rules, along with a friend of hers who is on the opposite side of this particular issue doing likewise. That’s what really started it for her, and many of us probably have friends, family members, neighbors, or co-workers who we are dreading talking to because of the elephant in the room. It’s something that everyone can do in their personal life. Of course there will be some people you just can’t talk to. There are extremes on either side and there are plenty of idiots out there. But I think there are a lot more of us closer to the middle.
If people are more interested in each other than they are afraid, then using our differences to foster fear will cease to be a way for others to use that fear to get into positions of power – on both sides.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 19:51:56 GMT
My wife and I have been feeling pretty stressed over recent events. Actually, she’s been stressed and I’ve been more just disappointed in people in general. We’ve talked about it and the one thing I hang on to is that we are all more alike than we are different. Many of those at the top tend to exploit our differences and wedge us onto different groups until we are unable to relate to people on the “other” side of issues. Then my wife came up with what I think is a very good plan to help with not only how she was feeling, but maybe the world in general. Here is the gist of it: Find someone you know who is on the opposite side of things from yourself. Then ask them, “what do you like about your person/position/whatever. No comparisons, not why do you like them/it over the other person/position, not what you don’t like about the other person/position, just why do you like your person/position. The idea is not to debate, because you aren’t going to convince someone to change their belief. The idea is not to correct misinformation, just to listen. The idea is just to realize that we have common ground. Often, more than we realize. Maybe they’ll want to hear what you like about your person/position. You can tell them, but again, don’t compare and contrast. Just tell them what you like. Maybe you’ll find that you can respect their thoughts and that they can respect yours. She’s planning on starting a podcast or something to get the idea out there (People not Parties). It will just be her interviewing people on the other side using the above stated rules, along with a friend of hers who is on the opposite side of this particular issue doing likewise. That’s what really started it for her, and many of us probably have friends, family members, neighbors, or co-workers who we are dreading talking to because of the elephant in the room. It’s something that everyone can do in their personal life. Of course there will be some people you just can’t talk to. There are extremes on either side and there are plenty of idiots out there. But I think there are a lot more of us closer to the middle. If people are more interested in each other than they are afraid, then using our differences to foster fear will cease to be a way for others to use that fear to get into positions of power – on both sides. More people need to think like you guys.
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Post by howler on Nov 11, 2016 20:27:32 GMT
My wife and I have been feeling pretty stressed over recent events. Actually, she’s been stressed and I’ve been more just disappointed in people in general. We’ve talked about it and the one thing I hang on to is that we are all more alike than we are different. Many of those at the top tend to exploit our differences and wedge us onto different groups until we are unable to relate to people on the “other” side of issues. Then my wife came up with what I think is a very good plan to help with not only how she was feeling, but maybe the world in general. Here is the gist of it: Find someone you know who is on the opposite side of things from yourself. Then ask them, “what do you like about your person/position/whatever. No comparisons, not why do you like them/it over the other person/position, not what you don’t like about the other person/position, just why do you like your person/position. The idea is not to debate, because you aren’t going to convince someone to change their belief. The idea is not to correct misinformation, just to listen. The idea is just to realize that we have common ground. Often, more than we realize. Maybe they’ll want to hear what you like about your person/position. You can tell them, but again, don’t compare and contrast. Just tell them what you like. Maybe you’ll find that you can respect their thoughts and that they can respect yours. She’s planning on starting a podcast or something to get the idea out there (People not Parties). It will just be her interviewing people on the other side using the above stated rules, along with a friend of hers who is on the opposite side of this particular issue doing likewise. That’s what really started it for her, and many of us probably have friends, family members, neighbors, or co-workers who we are dreading talking to because of the elephant in the room. It’s something that everyone can do in their personal life. Of course there will be some people you just can’t talk to. There are extremes on either side and there are plenty of idiots out there. But I think there are a lot more of us closer to the middle. If people are more interested in each other than they are afraid, then using our differences to foster fear will cease to be a way for others to use that fear to get into positions of power – on both sides. People have FAR more in common than the things they do not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 20:39:09 GMT
Exactly! There's a reason this forum exists.
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Post by LG Martial Arts on Nov 11, 2016 21:04:48 GMT
How is everyone else doing? Yes... #safetypin
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Post by feral on Nov 11, 2016 22:43:30 GMT
How is everyone else doing? Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 5:03:37 GMT
I highly doubt it is likely for there to be any difference now. I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, it's all being exaggerated. Thats the other most likely possibility... you should read german press... REPENT! THE END IS AT HAND!
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Post by pellius on Nov 13, 2016 23:34:06 GMT
One of my favorite secular quotes:
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men — not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular." Edward R. Murrow c. 1954
Perhaps we can agree that we share the hard-defended right to each speak and be heard, especially regarding those things about which we do not agree.
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Post by howler on Nov 14, 2016 0:40:50 GMT
One of my favorite secular quotes: "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men — not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular." Edward R. Murrow c. 1954 Perhaps we can agree that we share the hard-defended right to each speak and be heard, especially regarding those things about which we do not agree. A wonderful quote that can be spoken in many religious houses of worship as well. I sure wish history remembered the person who first quoted the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" which should be the universal statement of humanity.
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Post by Afoo on Nov 14, 2016 2:25:25 GMT
As our dear Prime Minister's forefather (quite literally) said, being Canadian is like "[...] sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly or even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt"
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Nov 14, 2016 10:06:45 GMT
Well I have had to throw my 18yo son out of the house - no concept of honesty, no integrity and complete contempt for every adult.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 10:08:23 GMT
Well I have had to throw my 18yo son out of the house - no concept of honesty, no integrity and complete contempt for every adult. I got thrown out by my father. I did return however. Hope your son turns over a new leaf.
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Post by aussie-rabbit on Nov 14, 2016 12:44:31 GMT
Well I have had to throw my 18yo son out of the house - no concept of honesty, no integrity and complete contempt for every adult. I got thrown out by my father. I did return however. Hope your son turns over a new leaf. That's what I am hoping, right now it seems I'm beating my head against a wall. I have real pride in my honesty and integrity, where did I go wrong ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 12:48:46 GMT
I got thrown out by my father. I did return however. Hope your son turns over a new leaf. That's what I am hoping, right now it seems I'm beating my head against a wall. I have real pride in my honesty and integrity, where did I go wrong ? It might not be your fault. It wasn't mine. I uncovered something that I could not bury again, and asked him to answer. My mother doesn't know. I am went to live for 4-5 years with my Kruu in Thailand and in my home country. He was very supportive and treated me bette than family. He paid my fees and fed me. Until my mother started funding. She always thought my father kicked me out since he wanted me to give up MA, and I wouldn't back down. I hid the real fact and my father brought me back. He is still the same. But I exploit his weakness now whenever I can. He is supportive and loving, but his crime is unforgivable. So, hope for the best and I pray that your son turns back.
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Post by pgandy on Nov 14, 2016 15:25:34 GMT
No stress here. Hehe. I have 77 years and am most content and healthy. Of course there are things that I wish were different but I don’t let it get me down. As for those people in the US running around like chickens with their heads cut off, it’s been my experience that anticipation is greater than realization. The man hasn’t even taken office yet and people are only guessing, nobody knows what the future has in store. As for the saying if you don’t like it leave. I did and with no regrets. No more deadlines to meet, the rat race is over, as is the competition. Stress will make you sick, at least. Life here is much slower and more tranquil, and I am enjoying every minute of it.
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