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Post by civil on Nov 30, 2016 22:26:44 GMT
Well well well...hhmmm
To be quite honest I did bear in mind the possibility of fakery..
The seller has given me until march to fully complete the payment which was very kind....or was it? ....And the item was relisted due to non payment..maybe because of the papers or maybe the previous buyer believed it to be fake altogether...
I will ask the seller to have it taken to get new papers if possible and if not too pricey.But if you think there's a possibility it may not be a real Edo antique I will just have to get it checked no matter the cost..
,1 does it cost a lot to do this? ,2 Do you mean you would like to see more like this as a way if saying it's a legit signature.. If so I won't bother the blade is 90% priority the papers are minor as i most likely won't be selling it for at least 20 years ..
Thanks again Jussi you have been great advice have a nice day.
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Post by Croccifixio on Dec 1, 2016 0:03:29 GMT
Civil,
The corruption was less about whether the swords were authentic antiques or not (all of then were, as far as I have read), but more on their attribution. There are certain smiths and schools which have a very high value and attributing a sword to them would definitely increase the price. This is what supposedly happened in some instances before. But it wasn't about passing off non-authentic nihonto as genuine.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Dec 1, 2016 0:11:41 GMT
I ran a search and you can check here for more information, this is your katana: nihontocraft.com/Sadashige_Daisho.htm It is/was on consignment through Danny Massey. Danny is a good guy and you can check more information on him & the seller from eBay. The daisho in on consignment so I guess the consingor is selling it on eBay by himself, yet the daisho is still listed at Dannys site? Bit puzzling scenario, and I would contact Danny Massey for more information about the sword & situation. I am not a huge fan of the signature on the katana, it just seems thicker and sloppier that every other example of Tsushima Sadashige I can find. For example the signature on that wakizashi on Dannys page has a signature much more to my liking, thin crisp lines like in most verified examples I can find by him. However you can see that Danny was vouching for the katana mei, he is much more experienced than me and has seen the sword in hand. And of course it has been through NBTHK shinsa where an expert panel has attributed it.
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Post by civil on Dec 1, 2016 7:04:31 GMT
Croccifixio I understand now ,the blade is made and then a smith/school or a talented copy cat will sign it to increase price maybe for a few buck here and there.Thanks for that mate Jussi, I had been on that site before but never realised that it was the sword I am attempting to buy.Well now I know and thanks and I was thinking the sori would be a little more shallow to be fair like 0.9cm-1.3 not 1.5 .. I will try to contact Danny Massey. I wonder why there is a guarantee for the signature on the wakizashi but it's not stated about the katana ... One things for sure if I do find out it is not made by the smith stated I will probably look elsewhere. Anyways thanks again guys I will keep you posted on the matter... All the best . Chris
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Post by civil on Dec 1, 2016 7:42:03 GMT
If you don't mind can you give me your opinions on this sword and tell me how you think it compares to the one I am buying as in smith quality/rating and practical use/edge hardness etc..Bear in mind am not concerned about the fittings as I will have my own so which is the best "blade" of the two in Your own opinions? www.japanese-sword-katana.jp/katana/1610-1031.htmI like this better to be fair but is it as good quality as the Tsushima Sadashige or better even ? Thanks in advance.
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Post by Jussi Ekholm on Dec 1, 2016 11:34:10 GMT
I think the guarantee might not be for the katana as it already has papers so it is maybe considered enough. Can't say for sure as only Danny can tell you more accurately. However generally it is a large risk for a honest dealer as it would mean they will accept the sword back if it fails shinsa. As there is risk involved it is usually only guaranteed for items that the dealers are sure to pass.
I am at mobile so I can't look pics too accurately. And pics at neither Nihontocraft nor E-sword aren't the best possible. It's bit difficult to see many of the details.
About the smith Kawachi no Kami Kunisuke, he is a very good Shinto period smith. He has been ranked jo-saku by Fujishiro so he is well above Tsushima Sadashige in smith rankings. I don't have access to my other books at the moment so can't check other valuations.
Basing on the appreciation of the smith the Kunisuke blade should be higher quality. You can also see that NBTHK paper has shodai (first generation) in brackets which is important as the first generation is the famous one. Unfortunately sword has been slightly shortened but it is still quite long.
In my amateurish opinion the Kawachi no Kami Kunisuke sword is much more valuable than the Tsushima Sadashige sword. E-sword is a large dealer in Japan and they know the market prices very well.
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Post by civil on Dec 1, 2016 14:34:12 GMT
Okay then I will tell the eBay seller that I have found a better sword to suit my requirements. Thanks again mate and I'll post up in a few weeks when I have the blade reservation secured. Have a nice day bye for now..
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