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Post by darth on Sept 5, 2016 0:17:24 GMT
For all their great rep as a chopper, cutter, hacker and blocker, they stab real well and they will give a nice, wide stabwound, the things are like sword results in a knife sized package. Kukri's, Bib Bellied Bowies's and Smachets!
In Va. I sometimes wear mu kukri with my 1911 and it's my backpacking blade, rigged to my belt kit. Great tool.
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Post by CivilSavage on Sept 9, 2016 23:12:56 GMT
Tora Blades or Himilayan Imports....
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Post by howler on Sept 10, 2016 22:14:47 GMT
I really think the Kukri supersedes the small hatchet overall, generally (large hatchets-two handed ability- are another story).
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Post by howler on Sept 10, 2016 22:17:13 GMT
Tora Blades or Himilayan Imports.... There is a cheap model you can get on BUDK that's pretty amazing for the dollar, and Ontario makes a FANTASTIC version for around $50.
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Post by Afoo on Sept 10, 2016 22:44:25 GMT
Does Condor not have their "Heavy Duty" kukri? seems like a good budget choice. Not "authentic", but functional
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Post by howler on Sept 11, 2016 1:01:51 GMT
Does Condor not have their "Heavy Duty" kukri? seems like a good budget choice. Not "authentic", but functional They have two models, a thinner/longer one, and a super thick specimen (but blade is less than 10"). CS has a bunch of "kukri like object" machetes of many different styles (I like the shorter, thicker ones...like the kukri plus...smaller brother of the royal kukri, not to mention their more expensive, thicker items).
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Post by Ifrit on Sept 11, 2016 22:30:51 GMT
Does Condor not have their "Heavy Duty" kukri? seems like a good budget choice. Not "authentic", but functional They have two models, a thinner/longer one, and a super thick specimen (but blade is less than 10"). CS has a bunch of "kukri like object" machetes of many different styles (I like the shorter, thicker ones...like the kukri plus...smaller brother of the royal kukri, not to mention their more expensive, thicker items). What's your opinion on the Condor Heavy Duty Kukri? (Shorter thicker one)
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Post by howler on Sept 12, 2016 1:00:58 GMT
They have two models, a thinner/longer one, and a super thick specimen (but blade is less than 10"). CS has a bunch of "kukri like object" machetes of many different styles (I like the shorter, thicker ones...like the kukri plus...smaller brother of the royal kukri, not to mention their more expensive, thicker items). What's your opinion on the Condor Heavy Duty Kukri? (Shorter thicker one) I agree with a YouTube critique that the thing should have a longer blade for its thickness/weight. It sort of has an identity crisis. Still, I was interested in picking it up if the price was right, as I am the patron saint of weird, specialized items. I mean, you really don't have to worry about it breaking as much as other knives with under 10" blades, do you. As a tool, the Ontario (with 1095 steel) blows it away in almost every way (except unbreakable pry bar, that is).
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Post by harrybeck on Oct 3, 2016 4:06:04 GMT
i carried one during my Army career [1980 to 1988 + 2 years reserve] as my field knife. I've done everything from dig foxholes to probe for mines. loved it and it never let me down. still have it packed away on my TA50.
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Post by legacyofthesword on Oct 4, 2016 4:23:58 GMT
Why the kukri? This is why:
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Post by MOK on Oct 5, 2016 0:17:08 GMT
Incidentally, does anyone have any hands-on experience with the Hanwei "Tactical Survival Kukri"? It's hilariously misnamed, of course, but if it's good and functional as such I thought I might get one for a custom project - see, I think with a little tweaking (hand carved wooden grip, maybe some simple etching or engraving on the metal parts) it could look really cool as a fantasy piece. Call it an elven war knife or something.
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Post by airborne on May 30, 2021 17:53:48 GMT
If you are going to be using it in a practical environment then I would definitely go with what Croccifixio said and pay the little extra (if its affordable ) and in my opinion try GGK Khukuris of Mr Darnal , but if you do , try and send a drawing of what you actually require.
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Post by Simpleman on Jun 29, 2021 12:42:53 GMT
About what manufacturer one should go for. They are different and similar at the same time. Some outlines I am considering, warning. Wall of words coming up. Not meant as info on what type of Khukuri to get. While this seems like an overly long list to consider, I think it illustrates that it may be not one or two things but many that determines why we would buy, or not buy from anyone. Some may think a few of these points are very important, and some highly irrelevant. But here we go. In no particular order. Functionality and/or use. Is it strictly for just owning one of these blades in the collection or will it be used and for what? A collector may want a accurate replica of an MK2, an outdoor enthusiats may want a "villager", or handguard and micarta. What will be the most important aspects for a user? The blades should straight up work as tools if they will be used as such. Tempering, hardening, fitting sheaths, balance and handling. This not only reflects the companys knowledge but how well they transmit that into practise. If possible handle the Khukuri beforhand. Nothing beats the feeling in the hand and arm. Fit and finish. Good fit and retention of scabbard, no warping of blade. No sharp edges that digs into the hand. Quality. Dont think I need to say more about this. You would like something that holds up, right? A good Khukuri will last a lifetime, the handle, may not. A fancy highpolished blade, may be a terrible user. Some Khukuris look similar, but are not. Esthetics or likeness of historical replica. Yes much about the look but also construction of it. A good looking Khukuri, may only be just that. Good looking. While estetics may not be everything, few wants an ugly Khukuri. If its done after a historical pattern like the MK 3, how well is it done, including scabbard? Details matters, high precision and skill in decoration. If its a repro, after what Khukuri was it made? How are the resemblence put side by side? If accuracy is important you should really see the original and the newly made together, some make khukuris that have very little resemblence with its original, yet use the same or similar designation. Location, were do they ship from. It dictatates, S/H, custom charges and taxes. How long it will take from order to recieving it. Some also like the idea of supporting local business. May also affect how easy it is with returns and replacements. Some companies dont ship to certain countries. Price, of course important. Sure we dont want to pay more then necessary, who wants? But consider the social commitment some companies puts into communitys, I for sure are willing to pay higher prices to know that artisans involved get proper pay for their work. Working hard should be rewarded. Actually, I would discourage from buying the cheapest. Either the quality of steel, tempering, hardening is bad, or, the artisans making it have earned near to zero. Nepal is a poor country were some people are being taking advantage off. Please dont support this. This is something different from individuals or companies trying to rip people of with inflated prices. Thats a totally different story. Customer service, is it easy to get in contact with them? Are they nice in responding to questions? This is important. When its hard getting in touch with them, it turns me of. Its so crucial before, and after a purchase. If you are having a dispute, how will they work to resolve it? Because mistakes can happen with any manufacturer. Warped, blades, cracked handles, loose buttcaps etc. Ethics, morals. Yes. The Khukuri business is very competative and hard. Sometimes this is noticed and sometimes its not, but once and a while conflicts floats up to the surface. And things gets heated. How a manufacturer conducts him/herself is paramount. How a company comments and acts upon competition and critique. A manufacturer sets the tone of conduct in a profound way, literally setting the standards. So I think their behaviour is important, also when it comes to treatment of their employees. Can the manufacturer back up big claims? Khukuris are sometimes marketed with huge portions of hyperbole. Some focus more on marketing, then anything else. There is a lot of stories circulating in Khukuri adverts, what is their in-depth knowledge on the subject? Or are stuff being made up? Does it even matter? Availability. Its always nice not waiting several months, it could be necessery and worth it but I would like to avoid it. With customization, its unavoidable. In a hurry getting a Khukuri, buy something in stock. My tip is, never be in a hurry, plan long ahead. Options/Customization. Yes, perhaps I want a longer blade, changing the spine thickness or anything else. Very important point since I like doing changes on designs. Also what materials are available? Different options of types of steel? New or recycled? Some manufacturers are into traditional Khukuris, others like the challange of a custom, some try and do everything at the same time and up all over the place. Different manufacturers have different focus, whats your flavour? Design and ideas: Are they into old design or making their own new ones? How are their designs executed? Do they use other designers work without their permission? Thinking of some of the work of Andrew Lucas and Daniel Murray-Lake that are being copied. Reviews: Read as many reviews as possible. From different sources. Good ones, bad ones. Dont be in a hurry, do research.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 13:14:09 GMT
"will it be a wall hanger"
People always ask that on this forum for some reason. Even if it were hung on a wall, why not get something that would function anyway? Do you have a non functional Kukri in mind if that's what they end up wanting? If all I did is hang my swords on a wall I would still want functional swords. Who is asking "but I wanted one that will break if I swing it 😢"
Sorry for the rant but that phrase is jarring into my mind lol
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Post by soulfromheart on Jun 29, 2021 20:13:08 GMT
That's something I have been wondering : how does copyright infringement work in Nepal and the khukuri business actually ? As, historical and regional variants made by different manufacturers whose smiths were taught by another company still active smith ? Would that be a copy or one's own interpretation of the master's work ? That aside, mentioning Daniel Murray-Lake, he makes totally awesome designs indeed. From what I've seen, most are sold by Blue Dragonfly Trading Post (California ?), Khotang Khukuri Handicraft, Great Gurkha Khukuri (notably, the Voidwalker ) and Sundog Forge (Australia).
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Post by howler on Jun 29, 2021 20:47:43 GMT
"will it be a wall hanger" People always ask that on this forum for some reason. Even if it were hung on a wall, why not get something that would function anyway? Do you have a non functional Kukri in mind if that's what they end up wanting? If all I did is hang my swords on a wall I would still want functional swords. Who is asking "but I wanted one that will break if I swing it 😢" Sorry for the rant but that phrase is jarring into my mind lol This totally, unless it's a clear decoration piece made of glass, heirloom, non functioning antique, Putting mall crap on a wall that cannot do the job is just strange.
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Post by Simpleman on Jun 29, 2021 21:43:30 GMT
"will it be a wall hanger" People always ask that on this forum for some reason. Even if it were hung on a wall, why not get something that would function anyway? Do you have a non functional Kukri in mind if that's what they end up wanting? If all I did is hang my swords on a wall I would still want functional swords. Who is asking "but I wanted one that will break if I swing it 😢" Sorry for the rant but that phrase is jarring into my mind lol Agreed, I think its about traditions. Many folks and also I havent grown up using or seeing them. So when inquiring about these, people may ask, or think it will be a display piece. It kind of makes sense, the question. Knives or blades are bought and appreciated for a number or reasons, the iconic shape of the khukuri is appealing initself, all other traits aside. I have talked with numerous people interested or owning the famous lions-head khukuri, and they are happy with it. Its absolutely nothing wrong with that or any other souvenir khukuri. I mean the history behind souvenir Khukuris is not a new concept. So thats why I think its an understandable question, if someone is interested in a Khukuri, what will it be used for? So I, and we can guide the person to something that suits the person. Thats the entire idea, different needs require different khukuris.
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Post by Simpleman on Jun 29, 2021 21:55:48 GMT
That's something I have been wondering : how does copyright infringement work in Nepal and the khukuri business actually ? As, historical and regional variants made by different manufacturers whose smiths were taught by another company still active smith ? Would that be a copy or one's own interpretation of the master's work ? That aside, mentioning Daniel Murray-Lake, he makes totally awesome designs indeed. From what I've seen, most are sold by Blue Dragonfly Trading Post (California ?), Khotang Khukuri Handicraft, Great Gurkha Khukuri (notably, the Voidwalker ) and Sundog Forge (Australia). Nepal is great in so many ways, but copyright when it comes to blades are pretty much non existent. Some may argue that it cant be applied all together, a rather complex discussion indeed. It usally ends up in that legally its ok, the moral question is another. Lets put it this way, researching a blade, getting the original, trials and errors to try and get it to the original. When all of that is done, just seeing it pop up at the khukurihouse across the street. Right, or wrong. An almost philosophical question. With DML, what I like with him, beside being really nice and helpful is that he does his own thing. He has an idea and a vision to have his own lineup of blades and Khukuris. I am a bit more of a traditionalist for much of his work, but I appreciate the effort and work he puts into it. He thinks about different solutions and materials a lot. And I admire that kind of hard work. Yep, Sundog Forge is his.
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Post by MatthewGMK on Jun 30, 2021 13:00:34 GMT
" Why the kukri ? "
I'm not much of a collector any more, but I'd like to eventually get a hold of one of these blades, mainly because they're pretty unique, don't you think ? The reverse curve of the blade, it's over all shape, etc ...
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Post by Simpleman on Jun 30, 2021 13:41:13 GMT
" Why the kukri ? " I'm not much of a collector any more, but I'd like to eventually get a hold of one of these blades, mainly because they're pretty unique, don't you think ? The reverse curve of the blade, it's over all shape, etc ... While there are similar curved blades, the design originating from 1627 in Nepal is surely unique. The Khukuri we know today is Nepali. The discussion from where the idea came, or if it always have existed in the area, is a different story. I think entire books could be written on the topic, "Why the Khukuri". I think one of the main reasons is that it is still used, while many other bladed weapons have almost vanished, only to live through their fans and museums. The Khukuri, is alive and kicking. Although it should be mentioned that Nepalis in rural areas also use axes, saws and chainsaws if available. Its also important to remember that various Khukuris may not always best best tool, but the strength of the khukuri is that it can do a little bit of everything. It is, one of the first multitools. Good that you are not in a hurry, because you dont need to be. Khukuris will stay here a long time, take your time, look around, and if you one day decide buying one, make sure to get back on your thoughts. A Khukuri is only a piece of steel and wood most of the time, but it can also symbolise, almost everything. Some say its the shape of Nepal, same say its the contour of himalaya. Its a blade sorrounded of a ton of stories and myths. Here is something for you, to show how deep the significance is of this blade. chinesemartialstudies.com/2021/03/18/mythology-of-the-kukri-sign-and-symbol-2/
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