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Post by chrisoro on Aug 28, 2016 21:59:56 GMT
Have you found a solution to the lack of frog yet?
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Post by Jordan Williams on Aug 28, 2016 23:17:03 GMT
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Post by pgandy on Aug 29, 2016 1:17:16 GMT
The frog Hördan referenced will probably work. I have a similar frog from KoA. I think mine is all leather and the buckles are oval shaped. Since the messer was a poor man’s tool, amongst other things, I dare say many, perhaps most, were just shoved into a belt or whatever that was serving as a belt such as rope. The pinuti photoed is 29 3/8” OAL w/sheath and carries well that way and in many ways I prefer this to a frog.
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Post by chrisoro on Sept 21, 2016 16:16:08 GMT
Thanks guys!
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Post by cptnvimes on Jul 8, 2021 22:42:14 GMT
I seem to be a little late to the show... but I wonder what the long term review of this Messer would be? I got one about 2 months ago and whilst I really like the design and handling and the price, I did not really like the grip (it chokes down too much by the guard in side view). So i thought to myself... well I could make a custom grip for this bad boy, disassembly shouldn't be too bad since it's a screw cap construction and the pommel isn't peened. So I undid the screw cap... easy enough... now to remove the grip. The grip is epoxied in place so it won't budge too easily but a couple of taps on the guard with a plastic hammer should do it. Everything is going fine until I turn the guard around and look underneath: the horror! the knuckle-bow has started to break at the 90 degrees bend. It fell apart and upon closer inspection I saw that the knuckle-bow is not a one-piece construction, but it's built with several steel core pieces which are cast around with (iron?) or something similar. The steel core pieces are NOT welded together at the joint so the action of tapping on the guard made the brittle cast fracture and break. Now I've got a broken knuckle bow on my messer. I contacted Cold Steel to see if I can get a replacement but I'm not holding my breath on that one. I can try to silver braze the 2 pieces back together and see how that turns out. As a last resort I could always make my own custom guard out of mild steel and go that way. In any case, if anyone considers taking their messer apart: DON'T! Unless you are prepared to deal with a broken guard. Too late for me but maybe it's a warning for others. If anyone is interested in pictures of the disassembled tang I could post some. The blade itself is pretty light. The guard and pommel are surprisingly heavy. The tang construction is not too flimsy, the threaded part is only about 15mm long and is not welded but one piece with the tang which would put many people's mind at ease when it comes down to durability issues. Overall I really like this messer apart from the guard construction which is quite questionable. For normal backyard cutting the guard should hold up fine but don NOT use it to strike anything because there's a high chance it could collapse. Hope somebody finds this helpful.
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Post by mumbles on Jul 11, 2021 0:10:28 GMT
I seem to be a little late to the show... but I wonder what the long term review of this Messer would be? I got one about 2 months ago and whilst I really like the design and handling and the price, I did not really like the grip (it chokes down too much by the guard in side view). So i thought to myself... well I could make a custom grip for this bad boy, disassembly shouldn't be too bad since it's a screw cap construction and the pommel isn't peened. So I undid the screw cap... easy enough... now to remove the grip. The grip is epoxied in place so it won't budge too easily but a couple of taps on the guard with a plastic hammer should do it. Everything is going fine until I turn the guard around and look underneath: the horror! the knuckle-bow has started to break at the 90 degrees bend. It fell apart and upon closer inspection I saw that the knuckle-bow is not a one-piece construction, but it's built with several steel core pieces which are cast around with (iron?) or something similar. The steel core pieces are NOT welded together at the joint so the action of tapping on the guard made the brittle cast fracture and break. Now I've got a broken knuckle bow on my messer. I contacted Cold Steel to see if I can get a replacement but I'm not holding my breath on that one. I can try to silver braze the 2 pieces back together and see how that turns out. As a last resort I could always make my own custom guard out of mild steel and go that way. In any case, if anyone considers taking their messer apart: DON'T! Unless you are prepared to deal with a broken guard. Too late for me but maybe it's a warning for others. If anyone is interested in pictures of the disassembled tang I could post some. The blade itself is pretty light. The guard and pommel are surprisingly heavy. The tang construction is not too flimsy, the threaded part is only about 15mm long and is not welded but one piece with the tang which would put many people's mind at ease when it comes down to durability issues. Overall I really like this messer apart from the guard construction which is quite questionable. For normal backyard cutting the guard should hold up fine but don NOT use it to strike anything because there's a high chance it could collapse. Hope somebody finds this helpful. I'd like to see pictures of the tang
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Post by cptnvimes on Jul 15, 2021 2:41:24 GMT
Her you go.
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