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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 10, 2015 3:32:01 GMT
Well shoot. Got this in an email 4 days after I placed an order. Kind of peeved since it said "In stock" when I bought it. In another note, do MRL and ACC have the item quantities? Jist placed an order for on MRL.
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Post by Afoo on Dec 10, 2015 3:37:55 GMT
MRL says its in stock. Strange. Sad if this is indeed out of production though
Kult also does not have them in stock - says "usually ships within 1 week" instead
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 10, 2015 3:43:18 GMT
Yeah, as soon as I saw the email I went over to KOA. Man, I had it personalized and all. /:
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 10, 2015 4:13:17 GMT
Sorry for the double post, buy here's a screen shot of the email.
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Post by Afoo on Dec 10, 2015 6:16:37 GMT
Thats a disappointment.
Though AC still has the 1906 saber on closeout for $200. May want to get one before even that model is gone.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 10, 2015 7:50:02 GMT
I don't really like the 1860's blade, and as I understand it, the 1906 of the 1860 mounted on a different hilt. (Feel free to correct me though, by no way an expert) The price of the sword from MRL was just withdrawn, guess I'll see tomorrow if they have separate stocks. Fingers crossed they send it!
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Post by Scott on Dec 10, 2015 11:48:17 GMT
Is this a good sabre? If this has been discontinued I might pick one up while I can.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 10, 2015 15:11:55 GMT
The 1906 or the 1840? According to the illustrious Dave Kelly (not sarcasm) the 1840 has good harmonics (from his 1840/1860 et all thread) but the grip comes slightly loose over time (due to wood shrinkage, could probably be fixed with epoxy) and I can't quite remember if he said anything about the 1906, although I think I've heard good things about. Just can't remember.
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Post by Afoo on Dec 10, 2015 17:32:00 GMT
The 1906 is supposed to be a very accurate representation of the original 1906/1860. Blade dynamics are accurate, as are the dimensions.
The 1840 is accurate to a decent margin of error. The 1860 has had good press, but I think the blade is a bit thin (KoA gives a thickness of 4.2mm at the base, which tracks with Mr. Kelly's stats. This is opposed to the 7.3mm on the 1840 ).
In short, my opinion is that both the 1840 and the 1906 offer reasonable representations of the historic originals in terms of blade thickness. With the 1840 OOP and the 1906 on closeout, we are tarting to run out of options for US civil war era cavalry swords.
The stats on the CS 1860 from KoA look okay, but at $2350 its quite a bit more than either one.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 11, 2015 0:54:50 GMT
The Cold Steel US M1840 is actually a Windlass product which may have been slightly modified to meet CS's desired durability. ( ie, better cured grip wood. )
The original Ames production sabers were copies of the S&K Solingen version of french M1822 LC. They weren't from the optimum type to copy. They are more percussive and harder to handle than the french originals or those of several other Solingen houses. If Windlass drops the 1840 that doesn't sound good for the CS, although there are other India forges to take up the slack.
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Post by Afoo on Dec 11, 2015 3:23:56 GMT
The stats on the CS are different from the windlass 1860. Unless you mean their 1860 is the Windlass 1840, in which case they match a bit better, or they have recently changed their supplier. I remember my ANXI from last year has a different blade than the Universal equivalent, so that lends a bit of credence to that theory.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 11, 2015 3:47:58 GMT
If I remember correctly the CS 1860 is mislabeled, when it's really reminiscent of the 1840.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 11, 2015 4:48:11 GMT
If I remember correctly the CS 1860 is mislabeled, when it's really reminiscent of the 1840. Correct. One of the endearing things about Lynn Thompson productions is how comically bogus their item descriptions are. The 36 in blade is a give away that you are referring to the M1840. ( Much the same as CS calling their french ANXI LC saber an 1830, when the backblade is even marked 1813. HELLOOOOOOO... )
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 11, 2015 5:00:24 GMT
If I remember correctly the CS 1860 is mislabeled, when it's really reminiscent of the 1840. Correct. One of the endearing things about Lynn Thompson productions is how comically bogus their item descriptions are. The 36 in blade is a give away that you are referring to the M1840. ( Much the same as CS calling their french ANXI LC saber an 1830, when the backblade is even marked 1813. HELLOOOOOOO... ) That, the cold steel "logo" and how they advertise is why I adamantly refuse to buy from them. Also, haven't been told by MRL that it's been discontinued, and they sent me a receipt email. How long does it usually take to sharpen and ship from them? I ordered it a few minutes after I made the thread.
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Post by Afoo on Dec 11, 2015 5:17:55 GMT
I would love to see them try and do a cutting video using the 1908...
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Post by bfoo2 on Dec 11, 2015 5:23:49 GMT
In their promo video for the 1902 US army officers, the guy had to cut into a pig. The poor chap had to swing as he were cutting down a tree- the 1902 being so comically light and ill-suited for this sort of abuse
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 11, 2015 5:30:01 GMT
Using a thin dress sword for limb cleaving usually doesn't go very well. Anyone know the time from ordering until shipping for MRL sharpening? This is gonna gnaw at my brain all night.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 12:29:58 GMT
If I remember correctly the CS 1860 is mislabeled, when it's really reminiscent of the 1840. It's an 1840 type made in 1860 (according to Lynn Thompson's warped sense of reality). Since the light cavalry sword was created before 1860, there really never was an m1860. That's just what many call them. There is no note that I am aware of in ordnance paperwork listing the light cavalry model as an m1860. The lighter sword was requested during contract dealings with Ames. Other makers followed suit but the US light cavalry reflects some of the French 1822 officers swords with the humped grips and lighter, straighter blades.
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Post by Jordan Williams on Dec 11, 2015 17:08:16 GMT
I just got off the phone with the supervisor from MRL/ACC and they said it's still in stock, and my order had shipped on the 9th. Didn't get any notice of it being shipped though, but they did say the item wasn't in stock at the time. Maybe they made a mistake with saying it was discontinued? Canceled my MRL order nonetheless, can't have two of the same thing shipped to me.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Dec 11, 2015 23:42:25 GMT
I just got off the phone with the supervisor from MRL/ACC and they said it's still in stock, and my order had shipped on the 9th. Didn't get any notice of it being shipped though, but they did say the item wasn't in stock at the time. Maybe they made a mistake with saying it was discontinued? Canceled my MRL order nonetheless, can't have two of the same thing shipped to me. :D Good News! Enjoy.
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