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Post by nddave on Sept 7, 2015 18:09:20 GMT
Hi everybody, was just scouting around the seller sites and saw this new one from Windlass. They call it the Sword of Avalon and even though it's got a fantasy themed description to it, it looks like a type XV. The grip and pommel looks very fantasy themed but the guard looks pretty historical. The grip looks nice and the added center ring is a nice touch.
Stats look good too and it looks like they at least got the weight and balance good on this one. Anyway just thought I'd post it and get your impressions on it.
www.museumreplicas.com/p-2801-sword-of-avalon.aspx  
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Post by Sir Thorfinn on Sept 7, 2015 18:34:42 GMT
The pic isn't of a real sword...looks like a cad drawing with added color.
Which makes me wonder...what will a production piece look like?
Or am I off base?
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Post by JGonzalez on Sept 7, 2015 18:42:19 GMT
The pic isn't of a real sword...looks like a cad drawing with added color. Which makes me wonder...what will a production piece look like? Or am I off base? I think you're prejudging but I respect your suspicion. :) Edit: I just went to the website and looked at it. I'm tempted to get one. I don't have a Type XV yet. It looks pretty good to me. |
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Post by nddave on Sept 7, 2015 19:10:21 GMT
The pic isn't of a real sword...looks like a cad drawing with added color. Which makes me wonder...what will a production piece look like? Or am I off base? Looks real to me, it just has that MRL photo shop glaze on it that most of their pics do. If you look at other swords some of them have that too. The European is one that sticks out due to the background and how the steel glows. Another is the Pendragon Sword or as it was formerly know the Prince John from Robin Hood when it was licensed. |
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Post by nddave on Sept 7, 2015 19:14:27 GMT
The pic isn't of a real sword...looks like a cad drawing with added color. Which makes me wonder...what will a production piece look like? Or am I off base? I think you're prejudging but I respect your suspicion.  Edit: I just went to the website and looked at it. I'm tempted to get one. I don't have a Type XV yet. It looks pretty good to me. I know it's nice to see a new sword from them that isn't overly gaudy or made with the obviously over stocked create a sword blade. I have a XV in my collection but already but this one is more true to the profile and for the price is a pretty sweet sword. Glad to see it under $300, too bad there's no scabbard though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 19:35:31 GMT
The MRL website says it comes with a matching scabbard, but there's no pics yet
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Post by nddave on Sept 7, 2015 22:18:38 GMT
The MRL website says it comes with a matching scabbard, but there's no pics yet Nice, I must've missed that. Must have been enchanted by the "mists of Avalon"...  |
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Post by wvfishguy on Sept 8, 2015 0:54:35 GMT
I'm a Windlass fan, but I'd be leery of this one. I'll wager the pommel is pot metal. It's possible the entire hilt is pot metal. It may be fine, but that material makes me queasy on a sword.
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Post by Aikidoka on Sept 8, 2015 1:19:29 GMT
That grip pattern interested me... could swear I had seen it before . Yup - VERY close to a pattern Christian Fletcher has used (see his Elven Saber in his Website Gallery). Good catch! Very similar to this one:  The Sword of Avalon looks interesting, but, as was mentioned above, I would need to know how the hilt is assembled and what materials are used before I would consider it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 17:18:33 GMT
I'm a Windlass fan, but I'd be leery of this one. I'll wager the pommel is pot metal. It's possible the entire hilt is pot metal. It may be fine, but that material makes me queasy on a sword. As the ad copy reads "hand carved" it is unlikely to be pot metal. It should be at Kult of Athena soon enough. Better photos and more dimensions. It is a handy size. |
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Post by nddave on Sept 9, 2015 17:22:37 GMT
I'm a Windlass fan, but I'd be leery of this one. I'll wager the pommel is pot metal. It's possible the entire hilt is pot metal. It may be fine, but that material makes me queasy on a sword. As the ad copy reads "hand carved" it is unlikely to be pot metal. It should be at Kult of Athena soon enough. Better photos and more dimensions. It is a handy size. Yea definitely interested in seeing if it's peened or not. |
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Post by nddave on Sept 9, 2015 17:24:23 GMT
I'm a Windlass fan, but I'd be leery of this one. I'll wager the pommel is pot metal. It's possible the entire hilt is pot metal. It may be fine, but that material makes me queasy on a sword.
It's probably just blackened steel. Their fantasy Blacksword had a similar finish to it and it was blackened steel.
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Post by tancred on May 4, 2018 8:41:28 GMT
Did anyone end up getting one? I'm not much for fantasy swords either. But like Nddave said, the only thing on this sword that's super fantasy is the pommel; everything else is fairly close to a true, historical Type XV. I also have a Type XV already, but this sword has been tempting me for some time. I'd probably try to get the pommel replaced with something more historical.
I have a few gift cards from Amazon to cash in. Its either this Sword of Avalon or Windlass' Munich. Know enough about the Munich. Was hoping some one here had some experience with the Avalon to give it a thumbs up or down, and help in my decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 2:34:11 GMT
I look back to window shopping this one from time to time. A dod sale would have me clicking for one, for sure. A handy size. Mostly I just miss me Black Prince.
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Post by tancred on May 8, 2018 3:12:13 GMT
I look back to window shopping this one from time to time. A dod sale would have me clicking for one, for sure. A handy size. Mostly I just miss me Black Prince. Did you sell a Black Prince you had? I hunted for that one and Windlass' Medieval French Sword, which was a Type XV, for a long time. Finally found, and bought both on the used market. They're both pretty awesome. Sword of Auray was another good Type XV Windlass used to have, but I can only find it from Irongate in Finland right now, so its pretty cost prohibitive. You're totally right about if this Sword of Avalon had come up on DoD. As far as I could remember, it never has. In my situation, where I was trying to decide on this or Windlass' Munich Sword, the Munich Sword has come up on DoD a few times. Plus, none of the Windlass retailers on Amazon had the Munich Sword available anymore. So...pulled the trigger with all those gift cards on the Sword of Avalon just a few minutes ago. Will have to get that pommel replaced somehow, though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 4:44:46 GMT
The A&A I sold has bronze fittings and has now been regripped in blue by the proud owner.   I get to visit it from time to time but a sword I should probably have hung onto. The ebb and flow of interests and finances have seen a few beloved pieces in other hands now. On the Avalon. I don't find the current hilt too displeasing as is but as a threaded construct, I suppose it could be easily swapped out. |
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Post by Aikidoka on May 8, 2018 5:17:50 GMT
The A&A Black Prince looks good with the new grip. The pommel is a big part of what makes that sword what it is. I have one and I feel like it gives me a glimpse into the past. It was made based on measurements of the original in Oakeshott's collection.
The movements that Fiore describes seem so natural with that sword. Thrusting from boar's tooth feels effortless. As does cutting with the sword in one hand, even though it weigh's 3.75 lbs. It's an amazing sword.
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Post by tancred on May 8, 2018 8:34:04 GMT
Edelweiss, that A&A Black Prince looks awesome both before and after! Sorry about your sword-selling regret. I've been in the same situation before, too. Maybe you'll find another one on the second-hand market in the future?
I couldn't tell from the pictures of the Avalon what the pommel was, even from the better pictures on KoA. I hope you're right that its threaded, and the pommel can be switched out easily. The pommel is the only things totally fantasy on that thing, so it would be the only thing I'd want to change on it.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 14:03:21 GMT
A kicker is that as time has gone by, I am less and less likely to buy a modern reproduction and indeed, should be selling off both modern made and period 18th-19th century stuff. I kid with the youngsters that have made off with my good stuff and offer to trade to get things back. Another A&A went back and forth a couple of times. First a trade, then he needed money, then he really, really wanted it again. An A&A Edward III blade with Duke of Urbino fittings that I had originally bought from Daryl Guertin.   In its latest iteration has had the shoulders ground down a bit for a longer grip. For all intent handles more quickly but I always kind of liked it as a chunky monkey single hander.  vs   I still have the A&A GBS and a couple of ATrim war swords but these guys haven't budged in letting me get them back. |
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Post by howler on May 8, 2018 19:03:15 GMT
The A&A I sold has bronze fittings and has now been regripped in blue by the proud owner. I get to visit it from time to time but a sword I should probably have hung onto. The ebb and flow of interests and finances have seen a few beloved pieces in other hands now. On the Avalon. I don't find the current hilt too displeasing as is but as a threaded construct, I suppose it could be easily swapped out. That's a handsome poker. |
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