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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2008 9:51:33 GMT
hello , i am fairly still new here but i plan on getting a Cheness tenchi katana eventually. this idea came to me to make Devil may cry weapon. images.wikia.com/devilmaycry/images/4/42/Yamato_3.jpgi want to try and remake my katana like this, i have heard of people who rewrap tsukas so thats mostly taken care of...the problem is finding a red tsuba..and the cap on the end.. if anyone has any advice or knows where i can find it.. it would be very helpful. thank you for your time
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Post by salvatore on Apr 13, 2008 11:43:49 GMT
I am sure you can find a Bronze tsuba that looks similar.
Now, the problem is generally koshirae...Hmm...how much are you willing to spend?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2008 12:19:13 GMT
up to 200+
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Post by salvatore on Apr 13, 2008 12:28:18 GMT
I personally do not know the technical terms for that type of koshirae(The cap on kojiri). I am not sure...There are a few sites that do good custom work, but it can be expensive. 200 dollars, does that include re-wrap for the tsuka?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2008 12:33:56 GMT
www.tsukamaki.net/i here this person does rewraps pretty well and i might just use a bronze Koshirae. and i believe rewrap is like 75 dollars to 90 if i cant find black same i'll just use white.. and im not sure.. do you any place that sells tsubas?
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Post by salvatore on Apr 14, 2008 13:09:03 GMT
Well...There are a number of places, I am not sure what you want. I assume something as close to the color as possible, so bronze it is.
I know some places that sell tsuba, but not that particular color.
WTF, this is going to be tough.
Hey, if anyone else if reading this, mind helping? Any help here would be appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2008 13:18:50 GMT
I've actually been thinking about this modification myself, which is why I wish I still had my Cold Steel O-Katana(since the Yamato IS an O-katana). Black Same isn't difficult. It's just regular, white Same that's been laquered black. The wrap is basically impossible. Artistic license. You'll have to decide on a POSSIBLE wrap that looks close enough. Lots of examples can be seen on the following page. home.planet.nl/~sebregts/index.htmlThere are NO production fittings(Tsuba, Fuchi, Kashira, Kojiri) that are even close. Customs would have to be made. That alone is going to cost well over $200. A full custom mount, even on a cheap blade like a Cheness, is just not within such a small budget. Custom mounts can often equal the price of a custom sword.
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Post by 293master293 on Apr 14, 2008 15:04:58 GMT
Black Same isn't difficult. It's just regular, white Same that's been laquered black. Actually, the Yamato same' is a really dark blue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2008 1:18:14 GMT
I've actually been thinking about this modification myself, which is why I wish I still had my Cold Steel O-Katana(since the Yamato IS an O-katana). Black Same isn't difficult. It's just regular, white Same that's been laquered black. The wrap is basically impossible. Artistic license. You'll have to decide on a POSSIBLE wrap that looks close enough. Lots of examples can be seen on the following page. home.planet.nl/~sebregts/index.htmlThere are NO production fittings(Tsuba, Fuchi, Kashira, Kojiri) that are even close. Customs would have to be made. That alone is going to cost well over $200. A full custom mount, even on a cheap blade like a Cheness, is just not within such a small budget. Custom mounts can often equal the price of a custom sword. well i wasnt exactly planning on making the wrap 100% like the picture.. since the wrap doesnt connect and its an O-katana.. well that changes a few things...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2008 2:35:30 GMT
www.tsukamaki.net/i here this person does rewraps pretty well and i might just use a bronze Koshirae. and i believe rewrap is like 75 dollars to 90 if i cant find black same i'll just use white.. and im not sure.. do you any place that sells tsubas? I used Thomas Buck for my custom rewrap of my cheness.... Tom's a great guy, I wholeheartedly support and stand by him and his work...
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Post by 293master293 on Apr 15, 2008 3:23:08 GMT
I have played Devil May Cry 4, and you can get some pretty good shots of the tsuba in the game. The best tsuba I haver found so far that is ALMOST identical to Yamato's tsuba is this: bugei.com/product_1180_detailed.htmThough you would probably have to buy the whole sword to get it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2008 3:38:54 GMT
Personally, I'd go with THIS Tsuba: bugei.com/product_463_detailed.htmI believe I've seen a picture where the Tsuba had a dragon image like the Kashira. It's steel, so it would have to be brass plated, and given a dark patina. The Yamato has a dragon theme, not a Shi-shi dog theme. A plain, stippled, brass Tsuba with a raised lip would be pretty easy to make, if you had a basic idea of what you're doing.
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Post by 293master293 on Apr 15, 2008 5:47:23 GMT
BTW, swordmastervahn if you do get a Yamato replica you will need to learn the Judgment Cut. ;D
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Post by salvatore on Apr 15, 2008 8:44:04 GMT
BTW, swordmastervahn if you do get a Yamato replica you will need to learn the Judgment Cut. ;D Stop bringing that up! I want to be able to do that! Lol. Thanks guys, I didn't think anyone would help when I posted for additional help. ;D I think I like HolyRollers tsuba better. Go with that...actually, don't. it will cost $105.00, it will take up half your budget.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2008 11:20:40 GMT
I think I like HolyRollers tsuba better. Go with that...actually, don't. it will cost $105.00, it will take up half your budget. His budget is impossible. It just doesn't work that way. Sword furniture is expensive, and there's nothing close on the market. Honestly, if it's a Tenchi you want, the blade is so far away from the Yamato that the project just isn't logical. If you were talking about their O-Katana, it would be a different story. But still, if your budget it small and you can't make the fittings yourself, you're pretty much stuck.
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Post by 293master293 on Apr 15, 2008 15:05:09 GMT
What if you had $1000 dollars and a Cheness O-Kat?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2008 16:19:49 GMT
What if you had $1000 dollars and a Cheness O-Kat? Jee, I dunno. Then one might be able to afford custom fittings. The Kojiri might boost the set to just out of range. The overall project would go something like... >Get Cheness O-Katana in Shirisaya. -$220. >Custom fittings. Tsuba, Fuchi, Kashira, Kojiri, metal Kurikata. Brass or bronze, with stippled dragon motif. Atleast $500, but probably much more. I'm lowballing this estimate. >Full Tsuka construction. -$450 >New Saya, as Saya are made to fit Kojiri (plus the custom Kurikata), not the other way around. -$450 >Sageo, gold colored. -$12 >>> Total: -$1632 These prices were determined using Fred Lohman's webpage. He does great work, and at reasonable prices. If one has the skills and tools to make a proper Tsuka and Saya themselves, they would still need to have the custom fittings cast and finished, as well as purchase the Ito(~$39), Same(~$30), and Sageo($12). Total cost down to $801, minus the cost of your own tools, time, and materials.
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Post by 293master293 on Apr 15, 2008 18:09:14 GMT
What if you had $1000 dollars and a Cheness O-Kat? Jee, I dunno. Then one might be able to afford custom fittings. The Kojiri might boost the set to just out of range. The overall project would go something like... >Get Cheness O-Katana in Shirisaya. -$220. >Custom fittings. Tsuba, Fuchi, Kashira, Kojiri, metal Kurikata. Brass or bronze, with stippled dragon motif. Atleast $500, but probably much more. I'm lowballing this estimate. >Full Tsuka construction. -$450 >New Saya, as Saya are made to fit Kojiri (plus the custom Kurikata), not the other way around. -$450 >Sageo, gold colored. -$12 >>> Total: -$1632 These prices were determined using Fred Lohman's webpage. He does great work, and at reasonable prices. If one has the skills and tools to make a proper Tsuka and Saya themselves, they would still need to have the custom fittings cast and finished, as well as purchase the Ito(~$39), Same(~$30), and Sageo($12). Total cost down to $801, minus the cost of your own tools, time, and materials. I can probably get the sword for free, not in shirasaya. And I could use the previous tsuka. I am not saying that I would do this, but if all goes well, I might try in a couple years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2008 1:05:31 GMT
I am not saying that I would do this, but if all goes well, I might try in a couple years. I heartily endorse you waiting. You're certainly not at any stage to be jumping into a sword purchase, not to mention a detailed project. Atleast until a certain pattern has been shown to cease.
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Post by septofclansinclair on Apr 16, 2008 1:39:52 GMT
I am not saying that I would do this, but if all goes well, I might try in a couple years. I heartily endorse you waiting. You're certainly not at any stage to be jumping into a sword purchase, not to mention a detailed project. Atleast until a certain pattern has been shown to cease. Holy Roller - I'm sure you meant that a bit less loaded than it came off? Some could construe that you're bringing up things that don't need to be. I think that Master293 is trying to demonstrate some better judgment, let's all assume the best of each other.
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