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Post by Afoo on Jan 9, 2015 15:15:51 GMT
As always, grazing the internet when I found this on ebay. I am not a hugely knowledgeable in the field of French swords. I do have two late model sabre officier infanterie 1882, and the sword in the listing appears to have the same style of guard and grips. However, the blade appears to be different - perhaps taken from an 1882 light cav sabre? Or maybe its a pattern of sword which I am not familiar with (quite likely in my case). Either way, just a little curiosity which caught my attention
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Post by Dave Kelly on Jan 9, 2015 15:47:25 GMT
This is a rare customized version of the M1882 French Infantry Officer model modified for Cavalry Officer use. too bad there isn't a scabbard to go along with it.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 6, 2015 6:21:06 GMT
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 6, 2015 12:05:47 GMT
Style is an Italian M1868 naval officers. The beehive is Putsch and Sons of Solingen. Either a custom officers sword or a private gentlemans sword in the naval fashion.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 6, 2015 15:35:29 GMT
the amount of knowledge you contain never fails to amaze me.
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Post by Dave Kelly on Feb 6, 2015 16:35:38 GMT
Why thank you, m'dear; but my capacity for coughing up a hairball and dropping my pants to my ankles with some answers is a source of constant embarassment and sobriety. (gots ta get a bigger liebrayrie... :D)
Storia Dell'armia Bianca Italiana, Caesare Clalmandrei, pg139 Royal Marines styled M1868
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Post by Afoo on Feb 7, 2015 4:32:47 GMT
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Post by Mikeeman on Feb 7, 2015 4:34:15 GMT
I've had things shipped to me, then send them to other members before. If you wanted to do that, I could.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 7, 2015 4:45:53 GMT
Hmm. Thanks for your kind offer. I will consider it, though would like to figure out what it is first :P
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 15:09:40 GMT
It's a Prussian 1854-80 cuirassier sword. The engraved blade makes it an extra-degen (swords given or purchased by a trooper or officer to commemorate his service).
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Post by aronk on Feb 8, 2015 22:46:38 GMT
Quite a beauty that Prussian. If I were more interested in that period, I would probably bid on it. Only a few hours away from where I live as well!
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Post by Afoo on Feb 8, 2015 23:35:46 GMT
The lack of scabbard is most unfortunate as well :(
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Post by aronk on Feb 9, 2015 2:37:39 GMT
Oh, lacking a scabbard is remedied easily enough. Though from the perspective of someone interesting in the sword solely as an antique, it may be a major detraction. I, however, prefer to use my antique swords as they were intended. Of course, in most cases that might only mean being a drill or light practice cutting weapon, but I have a somewhat more utilitarian view of antiques than I suppose is typical.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 9, 2015 3:01:15 GMT
Oh, lacking a scabbard is remedied easily enough. Though from the perspective of someone interesting in the sword solely as an antique, it may be a major detraction. I, however, prefer to use my antique swords as they were intended. Of course, in most cases that might only mean being a drill or light practice cutting weapon, but I have a somewhat more utilitarian view of antiques than I suppose is typical. Or I am just an idiot and the listing also shows a scabbard -___- must have gotten it confused with another listing I agree with you on that count. However, my place is rather small, so at any given time, most of my collection lives hidden away in their scabbards. Its just a convenient way to store them while they wait their turn to be on display :P
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Post by Afoo on Feb 18, 2015 4:51:38 GMT
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Post by aronk on Feb 18, 2015 4:55:18 GMT
That's a thruster if I've ever seen one. For some reason, I can't help but be reminded of the British Model 1908 spike on a plastic hilt.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 18, 2015 5:06:25 GMT
A bit more dainty though - similar to the 1889 infantry sword but with a different guard. I know that WEI makes a version of the 1889, so am wondering maybe someone took that and stuck on an older hilt. The threaded tang seems very much out of place for this otherwise lovely weapon
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Post by aronk on Feb 18, 2015 5:25:12 GMT
Indeed. That threaded tang is a bit odd.
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Post by Uhlan on Feb 18, 2015 5:50:31 GMT
Looks like a Degen blade to me, to be swapped for a serious blade when necessary. Scots did this too. Basket hilts with levee blades for social occasions, working blades for the field. Just remembered that the French Staff Officers sword I have has a peen on top of a hollow pommel with a nut inside. That was quite a discovery for me when I took the hilt off to have it re gilded. Guess that at some time in the later 19th C. some people started to fiddle around with their sabres, like human monkeys tend to do. Mind you, these are all Officers sabres and pallashes and they had mostly privatly ordered gear. Come to think of it, I am sure I have an Italian with the same solution of screwing a nut on top of the pommel. It is the kind of nut used by Mr. Mauser in his guns. Two little holes where two notches on a flat wrench like implement go into. Lots of torgue. I think it is safe to say that started in the late 19th C somewhere.
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Post by Afoo on Feb 18, 2015 6:18:59 GMT
cool - thanks for the info. Makes sense, though this would date the sword more towards the end of the 19th century no?
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